1969 Camaro SS

Frank Castros · 03-27-2023, 09:32 PM

Why do some Stock Eliminator '69 Camaros run front and rear spoilers, one or not the other or neither. Where's the advantage? I'm not attempting to be controversial.
Inquiring minds need to know. It's not a MoPar thing.

L.Fite · 03-27-2023, 11:11 PM

Not real sure...

I thought at one time in order to be able to run the front spoiler you had to run the rear also?

I know some rear spoilers were factory installed and some were dealer installed, maybe that has something to do with it?

Greenlight · 03-28-2023, 02:54 AM

I believe if you claim the car as a Z28, Rally Sport, or SS it must have both the front and rear spoilers.

Billy Nees · 03-28-2023, 07:34 AM

In 1967, no spoilers.
In 1968, you could order the rear spoiler and not the front or both. SS/Z28 only.
In 1969, you got both spoilers if you ordered them. SS/Z28 only. Early 69s got 68 rear spoiler which is narrower that 69 spoiler.
From my own personal experiences from a million years ago, the rear spoiler slows you down and the front spoiler picks you up.
FWIW.

TOSTO RACING · 03-28-2023, 08:01 AM

They say front spoiler no rear spoiler is the fastest. I tried it with front spoiler and rear spoiler 129.90 mph. Took off rear spoiler next pass back to back same air, same day, lost a 1/2 mph 129.20 take that for what its worth and my experience on a 69 Camaro B/SA maybe 130 mph isn't fast enough to see any difference.

L.Fite · 03-28-2023, 07:01 PM

I always heard the rear spoiler slowed you down...
But that's always been the popular opinion.
Not sure it matters much below 140 or maybe more...

The front spoiler might make a difference by keeping the front end down...

Personally, I think Camaros are ugly without rear spoiler...
Looks like a cat with no tail...

Adger Smith · 03-29-2023, 12:47 AM

Back in the early 70's I ran a '69 Z-28.
Front spoiler was worth about a nickel and a touch of MPH
Rear spoiler slowed it down between 2 & 3 MPH
Showed up at a divisional without the rear spoiler and was told to put it back on or go home. Things were tough back then.. But.. They never noticed the
front disc brakes were replaced with 6 cylinder drum brakes.
a lot lighter and the line lock worked better.

Dwight Southerland · 03-30-2023, 07:48 AM

Adger,

So, have you always been a cheat?

Kirk Morgan · 03-30-2023, 09:20 AM

It seems the rake and the ride height of the car would affect the amount of drag created by the spoilers.

Adger Smith · 03-30-2023, 09:46 AM

I would think that is correct Kirk.
Dwight, I'm pleading youthful ignorance on the spoiler.
Yes that was cheating...Because "The man" caught me.
Still don't know abought the brakes.. "The man" never pointed it out as being illegal.. IE: Caught...
How many times has that been said on this forum... LOL
Dwight,
I thought you said you tried the spoiler mix and match on your Camaro, too.
BTY: Thanks for telling me about the 6 cylinder front suspension pieces and the brakes.

03-27-2023, 09:32 PM	#1
Frank Castros VIP Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: The Lowcountry. Posts: 2,638 Likes: 2,151 Liked 2,073 Times in 766 Posts	1969 Camaro SS Why do some Stock Eliminator '69 Camaros run front and rear spoilers, one or not the other or neither. Where's the advantage? I'm not attempting to be controversial. Inquiring minds need to know. It's not a MoPar thing.

03-27-2023, 11:11 PM	#2
L.Fite Member Join Date: May 2020 Posts: 389 Likes: 390 Liked 352 Times in 176 Posts	Re: 1969 Camaro SS Not real sure... I thought at one time in order to be able to run the front spoiler you had to run the rear also? I know some rear spoilers were factory installed and some were dealer installed, maybe that has something to do with it?

03-28-2023, 02:54 AM	#3
Greenlight Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 208 Likes: 9 Liked 70 Times in 18 Posts	Re: 1969 Camaro SS I believe if you claim the car as a Z28, Rally Sport, or SS it must have both the front and rear spoilers.

03-28-2023, 07:34 AM	#4
Billy Nees VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: On a hilltop in Pa. Posts: 4,218 Likes: 3,091 Liked 6,772 Times in 1,519 Posts	Re: 1969 Camaro SS In 1967, no spoilers. In 1968, you could order the rear spoiler and not the front or both. SS/Z28 only. In 1969, you got both spoilers if you ordered them. SS/Z28 only. Early 69s got 68 rear spoiler which is narrower that 69 spoiler. From my own personal experiences from a million years ago, the rear spoiler slows you down and the front spoiler picks you up. FWIW. __________________ Billy Nees 1188 STK, SS Make tech "TECH" again!

03-28-2023, 08:01 AM	#5
TOSTO RACING Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: DRAGSTRIP Posts: 808 Likes: 592 Liked 471 Times in 136 Posts	Re: 1969 Camaro SS They say front spoiler no rear spoiler is the fastest. I tried it with front spoiler and rear spoiler 129.90 mph. Took off rear spoiler next pass back to back same air, same day, lost a 1/2 mph 129.20 take that for what its worth and my experience on a 69 Camaro B/SA maybe 130 mph isn't fast enough to see any difference. __________________ 5664 AA/SA 1970 NOVA

03-28-2023, 07:01 PM	#6
L.Fite Member Join Date: May 2020 Posts: 389 Likes: 390 Liked 352 Times in 176 Posts	Re: 1969 Camaro SS I always heard the rear spoiler slowed you down... But that's always been the popular opinion. Not sure it matters much below 140 or maybe more... The front spoiler might make a difference by keeping the front end down... Personally, I think Camaros are ugly without rear spoiler... Looks like a cat with no tail...

03-29-2023, 12:47 AM	#7
Adger Smith VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Texarkana Ark/TX Posts: 2,348 Likes: 433 Liked 676 Times in 260 Posts	Re: 1969 Camaro SS Back in the early 70's I ran a '69 Z-28. Front spoiler was worth about a nickel and a touch of MPH Rear spoiler slowed it down between 2 & 3 MPH Showed up at a divisional without the rear spoiler and was told to put it back on or go home. Things were tough back then.. But.. They never noticed the front disc brakes were replaced with 6 cylinder drum brakes. a lot lighter and the line lock worked better. __________________ Adger Smith (Former SS)

03-30-2023, 07:48 AM	#8
Dwight Southerland VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Arkansas - In the middle of everything. Posts: 1,980 Likes: 52 Liked 724 Times in 177 Posts	Re: 1969 Camaro SS Adger, So, have you always been a cheat? __________________

03-30-2023, 09:20 AM	#9
Kirk Morgan Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 193 Likes: 0 Liked 52 Times in 30 Posts	Re: 1969 Camaro SS It seems the rake and the ride height of the car would affect the amount of drag created by the spoilers.

03-30-2023, 09:46 AM	#10
Adger Smith VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Texarkana Ark/TX Posts: 2,348 Likes: 433 Liked 676 Times in 260 Posts	Re: 1969 Camaro SS I would think that is correct Kirk. Dwight, I'm pleading youthful ignorance on the spoiler. Yes that was cheating...Because "The man" caught me. Still don't know abought the brakes.. "The man" never pointed it out as being illegal.. IE: Caught... How many times has that been said on this forum... LOL Dwight, I thought you said you tried the spoiler mix and match on your Camaro, too. BTY: Thanks for telling me about the 6 cylinder front suspension pieces and the brakes. __________________ Adger Smith (Former SS) Last edited by Adger Smith; 03-30-2023 at 09:54 AM. Reason: add