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Old 10-19-2020, 08:55 AM   #121
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Also, there needs to be fresh thinking to be able to break out of the current "formula" of 50-year old cars to expand the category.
Ya mean like more 2000-2010 cars in the guide that can be affordable to buy and race? And yeah, I mean FWD stuff too. And maybe 1 or 2 more FWD classes.
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Old 10-19-2020, 10:07 AM   #122
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I've always loved the concept of S/SS. The concept of competing using a set of rules that everyone must follow promotes getting the most out of a given combination. This, to me, has always been inspiring, motivating and invigorating. I've been a bracket racer, and understand that the cost and complexity of class racing make bracket racing a reality, but it lacks the "look what can be done with stock parts" aspect. Who hasn't run their car at a bracket race and not amazed their fellow participants by their performance? (And yes, S/SS ain't as Stock, and is a lot more Super than they used to be.)

The NHRA seems to be slowly eliminating S/SS. It presents an extremely tedious enforcement process. They don't seem to want the related tech inspections, tear downs, HP adjustments, etc., etc., anymore. The pool of people qualified to do all of the work required to keep up the integrity of the class must be rather small, and getting smaller.

Not to mention NHRA executives that probably don't get the concept, and would rather concentrate on the money they can generate in other classes. They could be rather short sighted, as such, because there are indirect ways of generating income in the long term by maintaining such classes as S/SS.

A big reason I'm no longer a member of the "club" is because the people that run it don't communicate with their own members. The very members that spend on memberships, and an ever expanding list of "enhancements". I'd like to know what Wally Parks would think of the way things are now.

Bottom line: I think the only rule changes they will make will be to make things simpler for them.

I've read on here that NHRA reads this forum. If that's so NHRA, please come on here and speak to your members.
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Old 10-19-2020, 11:20 AM   #123
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Ya mean like more 2000-2010 cars in the guide that can be affordable to buy and race? And yeah, I mean FWD stuff too. And maybe 1 or 2 more FWD classes.
Yes. If NHRA was truly interested in entry level car, there needs to be a FWD class in between 19 lbs. and 25 lbs. !
Also , see my post on X/ Stock.


http://classracer.com/classforum/showthread.php?t=74658
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Old 10-19-2020, 06:04 PM   #124
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With all of the newer "flood cars" available, it can be cheaper to start with a newer body style and build a car, than to look for a 60's or 70's classic and have to replace body panels,floor pans etc. just to get started. Many different combinations from the manufacturers are out there. There not all "dime rockets", but can be built for much less than a new COPO, Drag Pak or Cobra Jet.
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Old 10-19-2020, 10:48 PM   #125
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The rear drive Dodge Chargers, Magnums, Challengers, Mustangs, Pontiac G8s,Chevy SS, and Late model Chevy Caprice police package cars need to be placed in the guide. All V8 and V6 combos available in all these models. All years up to the current models.
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Old 10-20-2020, 12:31 AM   #126
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The rear drive Dodge Chargers, Magnums, Challengers, Mustangs, Pontiac G8s,Chevy SS, and Late model Chevy Caprice police package cars need to be placed in the guide. All V8 and V6 combos available in all these models. All years up to the current models.
Too many years where only one model out of a manufacturer's entire lineup is listed. And it is usually the one that they need for the limited-availability non-VIN package cars.

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Old 10-20-2020, 12:48 AM   #127
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Ban auto trans! There boring!
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Old 10-20-2020, 07:36 AM   #128
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Yes. If NHRA was truly interested in entry level car, there needs to be a FWD class in between 19 lbs. and 25 lbs. !
Also , see my post on X/ Stock.


http://classracer.com/classforum/showthread.php?t=74658

And more weight breaks in between the other FWD classes.


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Old 10-21-2020, 03:51 PM   #129
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There should not be any heads up runs between fuel injected cars and carb cars. and a way to stop the sand baggers make a rule to where if you have a heads up run you cant go faster then one tenth of what you qualifyed at. and yes they should change the seat belt rule to five years.

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Old 10-21-2020, 05:39 PM   #130
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There are cars in Stock that are quicker than some cars in Competition. Perhaps there should be a reevaluation of what classes belong in Competition, in Super Stock and in Stock? Performance? Cost? Allowable modifications?

How about moving Stock classes where cars have made passes under 9.00 into SS, as a beginning?
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