Best Pontiac Powered Super Stockers

[oldskool]

Use to be quite a few 389 wagons in competition.

Here's one that is shown to have been a record holder from '65 thru '80, except for 2 years.

Who can give us details ?

[oldskool]

Originally Posted by coolcanman

Ok speaking of Bob Michael how bout Johnny Duncan and Bill Foder The Mckinney's.

Got pics of a J Duncan car.

The pics I have of a Billy Foder car are of a Stocker. I think I posted a pic of a car with someone else's name on the door, which I have listed as Bill Foder driving. So, maybe somebody else has pics & info.

I know Mike McKinney won the US Nats in the '68 Bird Stocker he bought from Truman Fields. That same year, Truman won his Stock class, in the Bird the McKinney's had traded him, in that earlier deal. If the Mckinney's had other Pontiac drag cars, I'd like to know about 'em.

[oldskool]

Originally Posted by Tom Nolan

Don Kennedy is Pontiac!!!!!! Don's Pontiac Superstockers have always been top shelf.

Only pics I have are of the last one. Would love to see pics of any others he's raced.

[oldskool]

I suppose those S/S & S/SA cars from the early '60's are considered Super Stock cars. Lots of big Pontiacs did well in those classes.

Looks like I've already used most of my pics of these old cars. But here's some of Carol Cox, who won her S/SA class at the '62 Winter Nats & the US Nats. Her husband, Lloyd, drove the M/T A/FX Tempest to the class win at the US Nats. The M/T Pontiac powered dragster also won. So, Pontiacs did good at the big race, in '62.

She was actually the 1st woman to win a class at a National event.

https://www.nhra.com/news/2018/carol...t-class-winner

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carol_Cox

[oldskool]

Can't discuss Super Stock Pontiacs without mentioning the '69 RAIV Bird, driven by Keri Angeles.

I've read that she made the 1st 9 sec pass by any non-GT Super Stock Pontiac.

"...FEBRUARY 4TH, 2000 POMONA, CALIFORNIA - N.H.R.A. WINTERNATIONALS
KERI ANGELES DROVE HER FATHERS 1969 R.A.FOUR FIREBIRD TO A RECORD SETTING 9.99 E.T. TO BECOME THE FIRST EVER N.H.R.A. SUPER STOCK 400 INCH PONTIAC INTO THE NINE SECOND ZONE. CONGRATULATIONS JOHN, MELINDA, KIM, AND KERI FOR ACHIEVING A LIFETIME GOAL TO BE THE FIRST S/S CATEGORY CAR, (NOT A G.T.,) TO GET IN THE NINES. TO PROVE IT WASN'T A FLUKE, THEY CAME BACK IN THE FIRST ROUND OF ELIMINATIONS FRIDAY MORNING TO WIN WITH ANOTHER 9.99 AND THEN, IN THE THIRD ROUND, WENT A 9.98!..."

[oldskool]

I think somebody mentioned Robert Cruzen's 428 powered Cobalt, which has run some high 8 sec passes.

That alum head 428 is quite popular, in GT cars. Since the 428 was not available in an A or F body, I don't know of anybody running a 428, except in GT. But, since a 428 was available in a '69 GP, I assume that maybe somebody ran one of those, somewhere back in the old days. Anybody know of a non-GT car running a 428 ?

Here are pics of Robert's car as well as Todd Frantz's Cobalt. Don't know how many non-Pontiac bodies are now running the Pontiac 428 engine.

The GT rules allow LOTS of different combos. I like the idea of being able to run the older engines in later model bodies. Just curious. For you guys who were in SS, back when they came up with the GT rules, was there a lot pushback from the regular SS guys ? And, exactly what year did the GT rules go into effect ?

[jimmyparker]

The '63 Blue Catalina wagon is probably the Larry Pacey car out of the Miami area. He ran it in Div II for several years and set the record at will.

[coolcanman]

Originally Posted by oldskool

Use to be quite a few 389 wagons in competition.

Here's one that is shown to have been a record holder from '65 thru '80, except for 2 years.

Who can give us details ?

Larry pacey i think

[Don Kennedy]

Originally Posted by oldskool

I think somebody mentioned Robert Cruzen's 428 powered Cobalt, which has run some high 8 sec passes.

That alum head 428 is quite popular, in GT cars. Since the 428 was not available in an A or F body, I don't know of anybody running a 428, except in GT. But, since a 428 was available in a '69 GP, I assume that maybe somebody ran one of those, somewhere back in the old days. Anybody know of a non-GT car running a 428 ?

Here are pics of Robert's car as well as Todd Frantz's Cobalt. Don't know how many non-Pontiac bodies are now running the Pontiac 428 engine.

The GT rules allow LOTS of different combos. I like the idea of being able to run the older engines in later model bodies. Just curious. For you guys who were in SS, back when they came up with the GT rules, was there a lot pushback from the regular SS guys ? And, exactly what year did the GT rules go into effect ?

My only Claim to fame is that I wrote the GT rules in the early 80s, Gave the notebook to Darell Zimmerman and Elroy Adams to give to NHRA. Then NHRA made a few changes to them and bang the GT Classes were in effect with Dave Danish. The Factories loved the GT rules and so did the Racers who now could use Older Motors in Newer Cars. My Trans Am was the very first GT car Build under the watchful eyes Of Danish NHRA National Tech Person .also about the same time Dick Henry built a GT car

[oldskool]

I'll list all the guys I can think of that run the 428. If ya'll know of others, please list 'em.

Scott Burton, Robert Cruzen, Todd Frantz, Leo Glasbrenner, Don Kennedy, Phil Monteith.

The McCarty's have 2 GT cars. Don't know what engines they'll run.