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Old 12-09-2020, 09:52 AM   #21
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This explains a lot. Thanks
This guy Thogerson is who we dealt with
when ordering and when trying to get
repairs done He sends us on to a manufacture
rep He must contract a factory to build for
him.
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Old 12-09-2020, 11:01 AM   #22
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CTS trailer and Thogerson merely act as brokers for people that want to buy trailers---they set up a dummy business and solicit buyers--once they have a "buyer" interested they contact a manufacturer to build "the CTS" trailer according to the buyers specs-- HE is not in the trailer manufacturing business---he has had multiple run ins with the legal system for NON PAYMENT OF CHILD SUPPORT, trailer sales shenanigans such as not warranting or correcting trailer problems -steeling customers from the trailer companies he has worked for etc.--non payment of court ordered judgements--hundreds of thousands of dollars--multiple violations of court orders---and constantly moving from Indiana to Kentucky changing office addresses and residential addresses numerous times-----Good luck on getting anything from him he HAS NO MONEY and owes LOTS OF MONEY---Don't know if contacting either a lawyer or the NHTSA would do any good but you can try---I would suggest you look over your trailer very carefully for any other signs of structural problems, bad welds etc. before I would go on any trips with that trailer it looks to me like a disaster just waiting to happen---FED 387
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Old 12-09-2020, 01:09 PM   #23
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File a safety report with the NHTSA. They do not play around and he may be able to get away with the local courts but not with the NHTSA which is a federal agency. The NHTSA is the equivalent to the FAA in aviation.
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Old 12-09-2020, 02:22 PM   #24
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This explains a lot. Thanks
This guy Thogerson is who we dealt with
when ordering and when trying to get
repairs done He sends us on to a manufacture
rep He must contract a factory to build for
him.
Since I doubt they will repair the trailer or replace it, and in the event you want to keep it, you can do a structural repair in the same fashion as done on airplanes.

You can use 2024 structural aluminum angle extrusion, cut it to the proper width and attach it with Cherry MaxiBolt rivets or Huck Blind Bolts.

You can get the extrusion from Aircraft Spruce:

https://www.aircraftspruce.com/catal.../alumangle.php

For the Cherry MaxiBolt and Huck Blind Bolts eBay is the best place to get them. You need to determine the diameter of the hole you are going to dril and thickness of the area you are going to join to choose the proper part number. They also require a specific pneumatic gun to pull them that you can also get used on eBay and resell later. Nevertheless, this type of repair will last as long as the trailer.

If you want to read more about this type of repair, the FAA has available as a free download the aircraft mechanics manuals. Great source of information for sheet metal, structural repairs, electrical and plumbing. It is a large pdf file. Chapter 4 of the manual covers structural and sheet metal repairs.

http://www.faa.gov/documentLibrary/m...-1B_w-chg1.pdf

https://www.faa.gov/regulations_poli...e_hb_vol_1.pdf

https://www.faa.gov/regulations_poli...e_hb_vol_2.pdf
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Old 12-09-2020, 08:06 PM   #25
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Yes. SSDIV6. We are going to repair. Have no choice
We have the tongue pulled back level.That is why
the gap is big in photo. We was going to weld cracks
First. Then double up the with tubing or like you suggested
Thanks

We did contact the manufacture of the trailer
[in Middleburg,Ind] or something like that. They
Said bring it to them and they would repair but we would
have to cover the 100% of the bill. After reading about. CTS
he must done them wrong also
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We quit building Aluminum Trailers about 10 years ago =
The small weight difference was not worth the increased
problems to us.
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Old 12-14-2020, 06:43 PM   #27
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We quit building Aluminum Trailers about 10 years ago =
The small weight difference was not worth the increased
problems to us.
John,

There are ways to do it correctly and they could outlast a steel trailer.
As I said earlier, most tanker trailers have aluminum frames.
We will have a chat next year at the races.
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Just an update on the trailer. Just in case anybody else
has the same problem. We cut out the aluminum tongue
A-frame . We built a replacement out of 2x6 steel tubing
and bolted the A-frame to the trailers frame rails.
Just have to paint now but better than what we started
with.
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