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Old 06-05-2008, 01:22 PM   #11
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All my 1/4 mile slips had 1/8 mile times on 'em..... LOL

I know, who looks at that when you are focused on the 1/4....
I look at all of the increments and break them down......60ft ---330---1/8--MPH &ET----1000---And 1/4..................I don't store 1/8 mi in the weather station because those times are 7.10 +or - running on a 6.95 dial some thing needs to change. I can take time out of the throttle stop but I have no info and rather than spend 500. to 1000. to go to a div race for test and tune/practice you stay home. Am I getting through, I don't have one of those 150+mph S/ST cars. And as you said Dave, I do have a brick I'm pushing down the track............
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Old 06-18-2008, 03:00 PM   #12
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I run Super Pro at a 1/8 mile track in Portland, OR when I bracket race,also at Seattle and Woodburn, OR but they are 1/4 mile. I also run S/ST at all the division races and Natl opens. I really don't have a preference. Portland does it for curfew reasons so they can get the program in. Many of the tracks will switch to 1/8 mile if they have a rain delay that threatens the program. As for running S/ST S/G and S/C on 1/8 mile it isn't a big deal, I run around 7.20's when I am chasing 10.90 in the 1/4. they talked about the Natl Open in Portland being 1/8 mile so I took a stab at in the bracket race, took about 3 passes to hit it consistently. Give it a chance, don't avoid it just because it is 1/8 mile.

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Old 06-26-2008, 01:46 AM   #13
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Changing the gear when you have a large stroke engine like yours won't gain ET. The engine doesn't know it's running 1/8th mile and you run the risk of making the launch unmagaeable. However you will accelerate engine wear. Small blocks are a differnet story altogether, which is where this myth came from.
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Old 06-26-2008, 11:25 AM   #14
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Changing the gear when you have a large stroke engine like yours won't gain ET. The engine doesn't know it's running 1/8th mile and you run the risk of making the launch unmagaeable. However you will accelerate engine wear. Small blocks are a differnet story altogether, which is where this myth came from.
You must be talking to Jim. Even though it's stroked mine is still a small block 421 !!!!!!!!!!
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Old 06-27-2008, 01:17 AM   #15
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Changing the gear when you have a large stroke engine like yours won't gain ET. The engine doesn't know it's running 1/8th mile and you run the risk of making the launch unmagaeable. However you will accelerate engine wear. Small blocks are a differnet story altogether, which is where this myth came from.
Bruce, You remember Pontiacs, don't you? When I ran the 1/8, I had a gear thet put my shift point and finish line rpm the same. So there should be less engine wear because it saw those rpms for less time. Unimagionable launch? You bet! There's nothing like it. I carry the front wheels for about 400 feet, with the 4.29s now, so what'll it do with 5.43s?



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Old 07-07-2008, 11:34 AM   #16
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For someone that started racing when there was nothing but 1/4 mile tracks, doing the 1/8 mile things just don't cut it. When I returned to racing in the mid 90s about everything around here had gone to 1/8 mile. I raced it and didn't realize much difference. Then in the late 90s I started racing with the NSCA and the NMCA and all this stuff is 1/4 mile. Now, I hate going back to the 1/8 mile. Sure it is easier on equipment but I love the speed and the longer time on the track-10 seconds/to 6 seconds. I well agree that there are some killer 1/8 mile racers out there. It's actually eaiser for me to go to a National event and win than go to a local 1/8 and compete aganist the regulars. Traveling the country and going to different tracks and conditions equalizes it amoung the traveling racers. My 2 cents.
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Old 07-07-2008, 06:45 PM   #17
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Bruce, You remember Pontiacs, don't you? When I ran the 1/8, I had a gear thet put my shift point and finish line rpm the same. So there should be less engine wear because it saw those rpms for less time. Unimagionable launch? You bet! There's nothing like it. I carry the front wheels for about 400 feet, with the 4.29s now, so what'll it do with 5.43s? By the way, Bruce, my rear bumper is the same one that I ordered from you, years ago.
Nice GTO Bill.

In all of the testing I've done with strokes of 4.21 or more, trying to short gear them for 1/8th mile wasn't worth the effort of changing gears. If your car hooks well with a short gear, well, that's good. Some guys don't have as good a chassis to work with. And the added stress isn't worth it either. Are you seeing a tenth in 1/8th mile change by short gearing?
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Nice GTO Bill.

In all of the testing I've done with strokes of 4.21 or more, trying to short gear them for 1/8th mile wasn't worth the effort of changing gears. If your car hooks well with a short gear, well, that's good. Some guys don't have as good a chassis to work with. And the added stress isn't worth it either. Are you seeing a tenth in 1/8th mile change by short gearing?
A little more than a tenth, but I have to wait until the track warms up in the early afternoon. It'll spin after I get off of the concrete if I try to make a pass too early, like I did the day before Memorial day. It had rained and they dried the track, but I went out a little too soon. Since the first 300' is heated, I had my best 60' (1.1992), but when I got off of the pad, it was like driving a flat bottom boat.
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goob ! hey i know all about racing a brick! lol.. try a refrigerator box!!!! lol good to see ya again!
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Old 08-14-2008, 05:26 PM   #20
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just what do you think you know about that 1/8th mile racing there Senor Felipe?
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