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Old 02-16-2020, 10:07 AM   #5381
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Whose Hemi Dart in the right lane? I never seen this one before.

From what I've read Kenny Nichols bought the Dart from Landy and campaigned it briefly, so my guess is that is who it is.
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Old 03-04-2020, 12:19 PM   #5382
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Question for the community. I have not read through the entire 500+ page thread.

So where exactly was the BUILDING
that the 1968 HURST HEMI DART and BARRACUDA
cars were actually BUILT IN located and what was it's Street Address ?

It was called 'The BUDMAN BUILDING' by the Hurst folks.
It is 'almost' in Madison Heights, MI, but actually just to the east over the Oakland County and Macomb County Line in 'Center Line' township or district or 'city'.

Understanding is the 1968 Hurst Hemi Dart and Barracuda cars were NOT built at the Hurst Performance Research Building located at 1191 East Eleven Mile Road, Madison Heights, MI which still stands today in 2019, and it is funny, because on Google Maps Street view, the 'guy' actually drove all around that building which normally isn't done, but I have a stinkin' suspicion just why 'he' did drive all around that particular building - LOL
Ok, so are you asking what the actual street address is for the building? The way you describe the "budman building" you know approximately where the building in question is, but are seeking the street address?
I think there has been pictures posted in this thread of the hemi A bodies at Hurst undergoing the conversion work back in the day. Besides you, I'm not sure if anyone noted an exact location. I would guess also that the S/S AMXs were also produced at this building? How about some of the Oldsmobile work? Can anyone verify?
Maybe I'm mixing memories up but was this Hurst facility the place that eventually became Cars&Concepts or am I way off ?

Very interesting the street view vehicle went right into the compound at the former Hurst Research building lol thanks for that info
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Old 03-31-2020, 11:46 AM   #5383
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Hope you are all doing well, self isolating, working on your hemis.

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Old 03-31-2020, 01:05 PM   #5384
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Doing well here Dave. Yup working on Hemi ****. Dont really see much of a difference inside my pre self imposed warm winter destination I call my shop. Retirement is everything I was hoping for. Outside world is definately different and weird. Every trip to town lately seems like 5:00 am Sundays people wise. Got my hoard of cigars to see me through the long haul. I'm not hoarding **** paper tho. Theres alternatives as long as its not shiny photos...lol

Everyone here. Stay strong and be well. All my best

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Old 05-09-2020, 03:37 PM   #5385
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Ok, so are you asking what the actual street address is for the building? The way you describe the "budman building" you know approximately where the building in question is, but are seeking the street address?
I think there has been pictures posted in this thread of the hemi A bodies at Hurst undergoing the conversion work back in the day. Besides you, I'm not sure if anyone noted an exact location. I would guess also that the S/S AMXs were also produced at this building? How about some of the Oldsmobile work? Can anyone verify?
Maybe I'm mixing memories up but was this Hurst facility the place that eventually became Cars&Concepts or am I way off ?

Very interesting the street view vehicle went right into the compound at the former Hurst Research building lol thanks for that info

The building still stands where the 68 A Bodies were built. east of the McDonalds, on 10 Mile Road. I was last in the building in early 68, they were lined up inside, the old Hurst Hairy Olds was inside covered in dust with flat tires, and all kinds of stuff. I think i sat in every one of those A bodies, I was 16 at the time - wish i would have known the importance of those cars, i would have collected more info on them and the vins of those there. Who knew.
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Old 05-09-2020, 04:54 PM   #5386
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The building still stands where the 68 A Bodies were built. east of the McDonalds, on 10 Mile Road. I was last in the building in early 68, they were lined up inside, the old Hurst Hairy Olds was inside covered in dust with flat tires, and all kinds of stuff. I think i sat in every one of those A bodies, I was 16 at the time - wish i would have known the importance of those cars, i would have collected more info on them and the vins of those there. Who knew.
Very cool. Memories of that are great. Pictures would of been greater but like you say.....Who knew

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Old 06-11-2020, 12:31 AM   #5387
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polyglas and Old Yellow RR - Thank You, pardon the delayed response.

Immediately East of McDonalds on 10 Mile ?,
Ok, thanks, that building looks big enough and old enough to be 'it'.
2300 East 10 Mile Road, Warren MI 48091 is the street address.
Yes, the actual street address is what was hoping to find and document.
Just for the record, as much surfing & searching has failed to find it.

A 2019 telephone conversation with a very top level Hurst person was
1 of a couple sources of the 'Budman Building' name, but no address.
That source also said that Hurst leased and used that building for
only about 9 months due to '68 project volume and to build the Hemi's.
They left that building once the '68 Hemi cars were completed.

At the tail end of '68 Hurst signed the lease on a then just completed
brand new building facility located at 10711 Northend Ave Ferndale MI.
The new 1969 home of Hurst Performance Research, and where all 52
1969 AMC Hurst Super Stock AMX cars were converted, and the interior is
pictured full of white AMX cars in a June '69 Car Craft 'Super Gee' article.

Link to an April 22, 2015 almost what amounts to an online reprint of previous 'Super Gee' article
which includes a magnificent modern high resolution scan of apparently an 8x10 glossy print
of that Hurst Ferndale Building interior space stuffed full of white '69 AMX Cars,
as well as previously withheld Hurst, Bob Tarozzi, & Crane, Engine Dyno Notes & Numbers !

https://www.hotrod.com/articles/1969...x-super-stock/

Hurst did other cars in Ferndale, but did leave that building for ~1 year,
? 1970, but then returned to it to do the Pontiac SJ, Cutlass Supremes, etc.
There are pictures of the Cutlass cars also in the Ferndale Building,
even a 1974 aerial photograph of the lot full of them on the county map site.
1973 Cutlass Cars being converted at the Hurst Ferndale Building pictures,
mis-labeled as the Demmer Bldg, are midway down on this Hurst Olds web page

http://www.hurstolds.com/

In pursuing Hurst S/S AMX research and locating the Ferndale building still standing
the '68 Hemi Car Building came up and was surprised nothing specific was found.

'68 Hemi Car pictures from back in the day almost look like they may
have been taken in a gravel dirt lot on the north side of 10 Mile Road
across from the 'Budman Building' on the south side, but unsure.
Have seen only pictures of cars being picked up, not being built.

Cars & Concept grew out of Hurst is about all I know about them.

Agree it's a chuckle seeing what google maps street view does.

So asked, and your answers have helped 'firm up' possibilities.
Hurst 'Budman Building', 'birthplace' of the '68 Hemi Cars
apparently still stands even today as the Warren Community Flea Market
located at 2300 East 10 Mile Road, Warren MI 48091, now apparently,
hopefully, correctly, located with help from the information you all have provided.

Thanks!

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Old 06-11-2020, 08:35 AM   #5388
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Great information Phat69 AMX. Thankyou for sharing that

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Old 10-19-2020, 11:54 PM   #5389
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Are there many actual current or past owners of one of these cars here? Thanks
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Old 10-20-2020, 02:24 PM   #5390
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Are there many actual current or past owners of one of these cars here? Thanks
Sounds like a most recent role call is required Thomas
Its been awhile since much has happened here so lets see some photos of current and past owners that are still here

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