Supplemental Round money in Div. 5 - Page 2

BKSG1198 · 09-13-2021, 01:24 PM

It's what they call a Calcutta, mostly used in bracket racing to give back to racers who want to run for more. It all depends on the track and how they run their bracket deal, some do it for the closest on the dial in Q2, some do it for the best R/T in a certain qualifier or they give it to the drivers who goes the farthest.

I started doing a $10 Calcutta at the Mid Atlantic .90 Races about 3 years ago, some people like it, some people choose to pass. I have given around $300 a race extra to winners and runner-ups all the way down to 3rd round losers because they were the 'Last Man Standing". It's just a little added bonus if you want to get in on it but, we don't force anyone's hand because we all know it's already expensive enough.

Keith 944 · 09-13-2021, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by jmcarter

What was the payout for the National event? Congrats on a great semifinal finish at Reading!

For the keystone national I believe it’s $500. And it’s only payed to 1. What happens to the other $500 they would have to pay if there were 4 cars in the semis? And thanks for the kind words
They make it hard to find the payouts and you have to wait for the Mail to find out.

NHRA1926 · 09-13-2021, 02:56 PM

Stephanie, you hit it right on the head. when you make it down to the last 4-6 cars in your class at a national event, and you don't even receive enough money to cover the entry cost to the event, there is something wrong! I complained to NHRA when I made it down to the last 6 cars in Super Street at the National event this year, and only received $250. This was at a National event! How much money is involved in a National event compared to a Divisional event? WAY more I'm sure. So why is the payout so low?
By the way, NHRA's response was to tell me that they have a Lucrative contingency program, if I was disappointed in the payout for Super Street class, maybe I should look into this program. Funny, Contingency money is only available for the winner and runner up. I specifically told them I made it down to the last 6 cars. Guess they just disregarded that fact that I pointed out.
By the way, Great job Keith Meyers in Super Gas this past weekend at Maple Grove, guess it doesn't matter which class you run in, you are a great racer.

NHRA Trey · 09-13-2021, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Lenny5160

Ask all the D4 racers that have paid an extra $35 this year, lost 3rd round, and got $0 instead of the $100 they would get in D5. Was that worth the extra $35?

*I admit I could be wrong on that, but when the revised payout was initially announced there was no third round money.

Could you please call me on this? I am confused on your explanation. D4 doesn't have any $35 extra stuff.
Thanks,
Trey Capps
D4 office 469-248-0014

Lenny5160 · 09-13-2021, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by NHRA Trey

Could you please call me on this? I am confused on your explanation. D4 doesn't have any $35 extra stuff.
Thanks,
Trey Capps
D4 office 469-248-0014

I apologize if I caused any confusion. There isn't an optional bonus program in D4, but the entry fee was raised to $200 which is $35 higher than a D5 entry.

I am aware that the win and runner-up money was increased along with this; I just disagree with also taking money off the bottom of the payout sheet to do it.

Being in MN, I don't get to D4 often so it doesn't affect me personally. I was just making an example of the different structures out there.

NHRA Trey · 09-13-2021, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Lenny5160

I apologize if I caused any confusion. There isn't an optional bonus program in D4, but the entry fee was raised to $200 which is $35 higher than a D5 entry.

I am aware that the win and runner-up money was increased along with this; I just disagree with also taking money off the bottom of the payout sheet to do it.

Being in MN, I don't get to D4 often so it doesn't affect me personally. I was just making an example of the different structures out there.

Ok, Thanks.
Just wanted to make sure you knew what the entry increases were when the purse went up double on the $200 entry. Call if you have any questions or you can view it on the D4 web page.
There are also $500 bonuses on top of the $2000 base to the winner of SC, SG, STK, and SS.
With a $250 bonuses to the Runner Up of SC, SG, STK, and SS as well.

Speer Drag Racing · 09-13-2021, 08:04 PM

I wish this was explained better as well. It would be nice if they posted more about it and really let everyone know. I think it is a great idea, just needs to be ran a little better!

I just saw that in D7 they were paid $2000 for a divisional win. And sounds like D4 is the same? How is this possible when a national only pays $1500?

Bill Bogues · 09-13-2021, 08:42 PM

It's a good thing we don't do this for money.........right?

Brad Zaskowski · 09-13-2021, 09:47 PM

We have been doing a Calcutta at our Great Lakes Stock/Super stock races this year also. Last weekend we walked the lanes on the last qualifying run and did a $25 buy in for anyone that wanted to join in. 36 entries bought in to race for more money and 22 didn’t want to which is fine. Our winner Saturday night Mike Warren in his V/SA 69 camaro cashed in on a extra $900 to go with his $2,000 for winning the race. This is our way of keeping the entry fee lower for the racers that just want to come out and have fun while those that don’t mind a little higher entry fee getting to race for some extra cash.

Lyn Smith · 09-14-2021, 09:28 AM

I’m in if someone wants to do the Calcutta thing in St Louis.

09-13-2021, 01:24 PM	#11
BKSG1198 VIP Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Back in Vineland, NJ Posts: 2,461 Likes: 82 Liked 984 Times in 299 Posts	Re: Supplemental Round money in Div. 5 It's what they call a Calcutta, mostly used in bracket racing to give back to racers who want to run for more. It all depends on the track and how they run their bracket deal, some do it for the closest on the dial in Q2, some do it for the best R/T in a certain qualifier or they give it to the drivers who goes the farthest. I started doing a $10 Calcutta at the Mid Atlantic .90 Races about 3 years ago, some people like it, some people choose to pass. I have given around $300 a race extra to winners and runner-ups all the way down to 3rd round losers because they were the 'Last Man Standing". It's just a little added bonus if you want to get in on it but, we don't force anyone's hand because we all know it's already expensive enough.

09-13-2021, 02:56 PM	#13
NHRA1926 Member Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: Bowling green, Ky Posts: 208 Likes: 11 Liked 161 Times in 51 Posts	Re: Supplemental Round money in Div. 5 Stephanie, you hit it right on the head. when you make it down to the last 4-6 cars in your class at a national event, and you don't even receive enough money to cover the entry cost to the event, there is something wrong! I complained to NHRA when I made it down to the last 6 cars in Super Street at the National event this year, and only received $250. This was at a National event! How much money is involved in a National event compared to a Divisional event? WAY more I'm sure. So why is the payout so low? By the way, NHRA's response was to tell me that they have a Lucrative contingency program, if I was disappointed in the payout for Super Street class, maybe I should look into this program. Funny, Contingency money is only available for the winner and runner up. I specifically told them I made it down to the last 6 cars. Guess they just disregarded that fact that I pointed out. By the way, Great job Keith Meyers in Super Gas this past weekend at Maple Grove, guess it doesn't matter which class you run in, you are a great racer.

09-13-2021, 08:04 PM	#17
Speer Drag Racing Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Minnesota Posts: 45 Likes: 6 Liked 44 Times in 7 Posts	Re: Supplemental Round money in Div. 5 I wish this was explained better as well. It would be nice if they posted more about it and really let everyone know. I think it is a great idea, just needs to be ran a little better! I just saw that in D7 they were paid $2000 for a divisional win. And sounds like D4 is the same? How is this possible when a national only pays $1500?

09-13-2021, 08:42 PM	#18
Bill Bogues Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Bethany La. Posts: 318 Likes: 83 Liked 169 Times in 52 Posts	Re: Supplemental Round money in Div. 5 It's a good thing we don't do this for money.........right? __________________ Bill Bogues 4696 STK

09-13-2021, 09:47 PM	#19
Brad Zaskowski Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Posts: 198 Likes: 106 Liked 80 Times in 18 Posts	Re: Supplemental Round money in Div. 5 We have been doing a Calcutta at our Great Lakes Stock/Super stock races this year also. Last weekend we walked the lanes on the last qualifying run and did a $25 buy in for anyone that wanted to join in. 36 entries bought in to race for more money and 22 didn’t want to which is fine. Our winner Saturday night Mike Warren in his V/SA 69 camaro cashed in on a extra $900 to go with his $2,000 for winning the race. This is our way of keeping the entry fee lower for the racers that just want to come out and have fun while those that don’t mind a little higher entry fee getting to race for some extra cash. __________________ Brad Zaskowski 3697 STK, SS

09-14-2021, 09:28 AM	#20
Lyn Smith VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Pontiac,il. Posts: 1,121 Likes: 217 Liked 841 Times in 156 Posts	Re: Supplemental Round money in Div. 5 I’m in if someone wants to do the Calcutta thing in St Louis.