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Old 09-30-2021, 11:03 PM   #11
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Default Re: New FWD weight breaks!

Now I see what they did. Instead of adding a class, they shifted the weight breaks to close up the gap between the old D & E ......E stays the same.
Billy, You'll probably have to run in C (the old D)
Gary runs C , but the same index.
They just need a new index for the new D

OLD breaks:

AAF/S 11.00 lbs/hp 13.50 13.50 8.54 8.54
AF/S 13.00 lbs/hp 13.85 13.85 8.74 8.74
BF/S 16.00 lbs/hp 14.65 14.65 9.17 9.17
CF/S 17.50 lbs/hp 15.15 15.15 9.45 9.45
DF/S 19.00 lbs/hp 15.60 15.60 9.86 9.86
EF/S 25.00 lbs/hp 17.45 17.45 10.82 10.82


Am I missing something ?
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Old 10-01-2021, 03:18 AM   #12
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Default Re: New FWD weight breaks!

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Now I see what they did. Instead of adding a class, they shifted the weight breaks to close up the gap between the old D & E ......E stays the same.
Billy, You'll probably have to run in C (the old D)
Gary runs C , but the same index.
They just need a new index for the new D

OLD breaks:

AAF/S 11.00 lbs/hp 13.50 13.50 8.54 8.54
AF/S 13.00 lbs/hp 13.85 13.85 8.74 8.74
BF/S 16.00 lbs/hp 14.65 14.65 9.17 9.17
CF/S 17.50 lbs/hp 15.15 15.15 9.45 9.45
DF/S 19.00 lbs/hp 15.60 15.60 9.86 9.86
EF/S 25.00 lbs/hp 17.45 17.45 10.82 10.82


Am I missing something ?
If I understand you correctly Mark, the new CF/S will have the old (current) DF/S index of 15.60? If that's the case, then changing four letters on "Shark Bait" (plus my class designation here), will be fine by me, and probably Billy's car as well.
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Old 10-01-2021, 07:45 AM   #13
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Default Re: New FWD weight breaks!

It seems to me that every time I turn around they are adding more SS and Comp classes. I tend to agree with the "too many classes already" deal but if THAT'S the issue then why do we still have separate auto and stick classes?
Adding 1 or even 2 FWD classes isn't going to hurt or change anything in the running of the eliminator.
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Old 10-01-2021, 08:16 AM   #14
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Default Re: New FWD weight breaks!

Mark, that's how I see it also. Just have to get a new Index for DF/S. Have to wait and see what it is going to be.
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Old 10-01-2021, 08:29 AM   #15
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Default Re: New FWD weight breaks!

If the FWD racers are out of the loop with this decision, what prompted it and a statement SHOULD be forthcoming.
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Old 10-01-2021, 08:32 AM   #16
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Hey NHRA, if you're reading this,what needs to be done is to leave the class breaks as they are except to add a 22 lb. class between D and E..
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Billy is HOT!
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Old 10-01-2021, 09:15 AM   #18
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Default Re: New FWD weight breaks!

I had asked Lonnie Grim a question thru email in August, and was very surprised that he answered me quickly. Not only that, but when he said "I assure you" he was true to it.

An email to Lonnie may get these questions answered, or sent to the direction to someone who can.
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Old 10-01-2021, 09:17 AM   #19
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Default Re: New FWD weight breaks!

Yup, RED Hot.
What these weight changes do in a nutshell is let Kopejtka and Seibenik competitively (which they should be able to do) run in 2 classes while making Hampton's car and mine into one- class cars. Fair tradeoff?
Make a 22 lb. class!
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Old 10-01-2021, 09:25 AM   #20
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Default Re: New FWD weight breaks!

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It seems to me that every time I turn around they are adding more SS and Comp classes. I tend to agree with the "too many classes already" deal but if THAT'S the issue then why do we still have separate auto and stick classes?
Adding 1 or even 2 FWD classes isn't going to hurt or change anything in the running of the eliminator.
To add to this point - what was wrong with the old weight breaks from ~20 years ago? A through H, though I can't remember what the breaks were. That's only 3 more classes now. It seems there were a lot more FWD cars back then compared to now, there sure haven't been an abundance of new heads-up FWD elimination rounds, and all the single cars run in the class combo anyway?
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