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Old 09-30-2021, 02:34 PM   #1
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Default New FWD weight breaks!

Why???????????????

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Old 09-30-2021, 03:23 PM   #2
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Default Re: New FWD weight breaks!

Removing 200lbs out of a small car seems pretty hard and ridiculous to do. Then you lose a 1/2 a second of index going from CF/S to BF/S for just 200lbs. Something don't add up in my math. I don't watch those classes. Did they add EF/S or something?

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Default Re: New FWD weight breaks!

BF: 16.00 to 17.49 18.99
CF: 17.50 to 18.99 19.00 to 21.99
DF: 19.00 to 22.00 to 24.99
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Default Re: New FWD weight breaks!

They SHOULD have added a class or two between B and E!!!
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Old 09-30-2021, 05:18 PM   #5
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I wish NHRA would buck up and explain why this change was made.. this will effectively force one of the nicest dudes on the West Coast to retire unfortunately..
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Old 09-30-2021, 05:42 PM   #6
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Ya know, I've had more than one NHRA "Higher Up" ask me what they can do to make this stuff more affordable. I built a car that I need like I need another hole in my head to try and prove a point as to how affordable a FWD combo can be and how simple it can be to do. They should have added a couple of classes.
Other than the Tech people who are on the ground at a local level, there is no one in the NHRA that knows or cares what it is that we do. Just ignorant!
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Ya know, I've had more than one NHRA "Higher Up" ask me what they can do to make this stuff more affordable. I built a car that I need like I need another hole in my head to try and prove a point as to how affordable a FWD combo can be and how simple it can be to do. They should have added a couple of classes.
Other than the Tech people who are on the ground at a local level, there is no one in the NHRA that knows or cares what it is that we do. Just ignorant!
Omg !! The damage is done !! No more “rent a wrecks “ in stock !!
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Old 09-30-2021, 10:25 PM   #8
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First, a VERRRRY belated welcome to the ranks of us (to borrow from the Marines), the few, the proud, THE FWD STOCKER RACERS! I've been rooting for you with it even more-so than with your previous cars.....it being a Cavalier is pretty cool too!

Billy, I'm wondering why myself....especially if there's no other changes? Moreover, I wonder if DF/S is going to continue to allow V6's (like they do now)? I look forward to hearing an explanation about this, because (I.M.N.S.H.O.), changes should be made to increase (not decrease), the number of FWD stockers in the country!

Since this is happening, I wonder if the indexes are going to reflect this change as well. It's interesting that it only affects BF/S-EF/S and not AF/S or AAF/S????
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Removing 200lbs out of a small car seems pretty hard and ridiculous to do. Then you lose a 1/2 a second of index going from CF/S to BF/S for just 200lbs. Something don't add up in my math. I don't watch those classes. Did they add EF/S or something?

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I wonder about the "or something", because EF/S has been here for years. BIll, Stan, Brent, and Rob, amongst 1-2 others run that class. I agree with you also the math analysis.
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Old 09-30-2021, 11:01 PM   #10
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Sorry Billy for sure. I just took a few minutes to look at Gary Hampton's combo .If I'm correct Gary you are rated at 125hp and did weight 2545lbs minimum in DF/S. Now you have to weight 2920lbs in DF/S. You need two friends to ride along with now to add 375lbs. But yet Bill O'Conner's slow roller Horizon didn't get effected one bit. Why would they basically kill some combinations.
Like you say Billy they need to add more classes. Which we probably have too many already. That or completely change all the hp ratings fairly on these cars and put these cars in T,U,V and W. That might be a crazy huge stretch but just thinking out loud. that or add X. Y and Z and let any amount of cylinders run in any class. Another senior moment.

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