Ring vs cylinder wall hardness

Larry Hill · 05-09-2022, 07:24 PM

Has anyone come up with the ring hardness in relation to cylinder wall hardness and what is best?

Things you let slip into your mind during lunch.

Frank Castros · 05-09-2022, 08:35 PM

Larry,

Wouldn't that be the aforementioned Gregg Luneack?

340Cuda · 05-10-2022, 11:35 AM

I would ask one of these guys about it, I feel both of them would be happy to talk to you.
Bill

Keith Jones
Director of Technical Sales
keithj@totalseal.com
623-233-1353

Lake Speed, Jr.
Vice President Sales & Marketing
lake@totalseal.com
704-239-4401

Ralph A Powell · 05-10-2022, 05:05 PM

The real thing cylinder wall hardness affects is how you hone the bores and what stone you use, also what honing oil and pressure you use on the honing stones!

Mark Yacavone · 05-10-2022, 09:45 PM

Many years ago, Tony Feil would hone our S/S blocks to a mirror finish for the .043 moly filled top rings.
After a while we wanted to try the stainless dykes. Tony said we had to hone the blocks to the standard cross hatch pattern.
What does that tell you ?

fordteacherguy · 05-11-2022, 08:27 AM

Check out the videos of the Engine Performance Expo Series that was put on by Total Seal and Rottler. Here are a couple on cylinder wall finish considerations.

Larry Hill · 05-12-2022, 07:07 AM

^^^^^^^^^ Thanks that Is what I was looking for.

05-09-2022, 07:24 PM	#1
Larry Hill Live Reporter Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Hickory, Ky Posts: 10,295 Likes: 1,642 Liked 9,508 Times in 1,971 Posts	Ring vs cylinder wall hardness Has anyone come up with the ring hardness in relation to cylinder wall hardness and what is best? Things you let slip into your mind during lunch. __________________ IHM Used Parts https://ihmusedparts.com 888-821-1817

05-09-2022, 08:35 PM	#2
Frank Castros VIP Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: The Lowcountry. Posts: 2,647 Likes: 2,161 Liked 2,100 Times in 774 Posts	Re: Ring vs cylinder wall hardness Larry, Wouldn't that be the aforementioned Gregg Luneack?

05-10-2022, 11:35 AM	#3
340Cuda VIP Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Tulsa, Oklahoma Posts: 1,573 Likes: 3,235 Liked 683 Times in 292 Posts	Re: Ring vs cylinder wall hardness I would ask one of these guys about it, I feel both of them would be happy to talk to you. Bill Keith Jones Director of Technical Sales keithj@totalseal.com 623-233-1353 Lake Speed, Jr. Vice President Sales & Marketing lake@totalseal.com 704-239-4401

05-10-2022, 05:05 PM	#4
Ralph A Powell Member Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: Bay City Texas Posts: 358 Likes: 1 Liked 202 Times in 123 Posts	Re: Ring vs cylinder wall hardness The real thing cylinder wall hardness affects is how you hone the bores and what stone you use, also what honing oil and pressure you use on the honing stones!

05-10-2022, 09:45 PM	#5
Mark Yacavone Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Miles From Nowhere Posts: 7,424 Likes: 2,597 Liked 4,474 Times in 1,700 Posts	Re: Ring vs cylinder wall hardness Many years ago, Tony Feil would hone our S/S blocks to a mirror finish for the .043 moly filled top rings. After a while we wanted to try the stainless dykes. Tony said we had to hone the blocks to the standard cross hatch pattern. What does that tell you ? __________________ We are lucky we don't get as much Government as we pay for..... Will Rogers

05-11-2022, 08:27 AM	#6
fordteacherguy Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Federal Way, WA Posts: 233 Likes: 26 Liked 147 Times in 47 Posts	Re: Ring vs cylinder wall hardness Check out the videos of the Engine Performance Expo Series that was put on by Total Seal and Rottler. Here are a couple on cylinder wall finish considerations. __________________ Brian Thompson NHRA Stock / Super Stock Class P/SA 6665 SS/MA 6665

05-12-2022, 07:07 AM	#7
Larry Hill Live Reporter Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Hickory, Ky Posts: 10,295 Likes: 1,642 Liked 9,508 Times in 1,971 Posts	Re: Ring vs cylinder wall hardness ^^^^^^^^^ Thanks that Is what I was looking for. __________________ IHM Used Parts https://ihmusedparts.com 888-821-1817