Best Pontiac Powered Super Stockers - Page 37

oldskool · 09-10-2020, 09:47 PM

There have been several Pontiac powered 4th gen GT BIrds. I suppose the Hatari Bird is the most famous. Leo Glasbrenner ran one for several years.

The one I wanna look at next has been most recently driven by John Agneta. I've seen it referred to as the Johnny Duncan car. 3 pics I have were taken when Johnny was driving the car. His #3256 is on the windshield. The car also shows up, under Johnny's name, on the Auto Imagery site.

I'm not sure of this, but another pic I have was said to be of a car that Sam Biondo was driving. Auto Imagery does indeed show a very similar looking car, under his name. So, until/unless I find out different, I'll assume it is the same car. That means that Sal & Peter Biondo probably also drove it some. So, the car probably made LOTS of races, while the Biondo's were racing it.

Anyhow, it shows up on DRC as a '95 model, with Johnny Duncan driving, in 2008.

4/25/08 - Southern Nats - #53 - .860 under.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2008#indextop

5/16/08 - Thunder Valley Nats - #31 - .663 under.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2008#indextop

4/17/09 - Southern Nats - #45 - .854 under.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2009#indextop

7/19/14 - div 3 race - #56 - .538 under.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2014#indextop

10/19/14 - Northern Sports Nats - #49 - .609 under.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2014#indextop

6/19/15 - Thunder Valley Nats - #22 - .384 under.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2015#indextop

I have no idea who owned it after Johnny, or who owns it now. Another Pontiac GT racer posted that when John Agneta drove it, the car had a 4X head 400 in it.

At this race, Sean Pickett was driving it, listed as a '96 model. At that race, John Agneta was listed @ #27, driving a '98 Bird. That was said to be the Phil Monteith "Hatari" Bird.

8/19/17 - div 1-6 - #23 - .745 under.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop

oldskool · 09-12-2020, 02:07 PM

Hey, the Class Racer Nats came along just in time.

A pic was posted showing what I assume is the red Bird I just mentioned, as well as the white Hatari Bird.

It was posted that Sal Biondo is driving the white Bird, & Sean Pickett is driving the red Bird. Both cars now have "Hatari" on 'em. Don't know if that means that Phil Monteith owns both cars, or just that he has a hand in both.

John Agneta posted that he & Sean Pickett own the red car, & Phil owns the white car, & that the white car has a Montieth Racing 428 & the red car a 400. Dylan Biondo's Stocker also has a small Hatari on it. So I assume that's also one of Phil's engines, or at least he had a hand in it.

oldskool · 09-12-2020, 07:37 PM

At Earlville, according to the DRTV video, Bill Rink's little '74 GTO was #1 qualifier in SS, @ 1.145 under !

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...er=30#indextop

oldskool · 09-21-2020, 11:09 PM

At the Texas double, this past weekend. J.B. Clegg ran a 9.623, in the Clegg '73 SD455 Bird. As far as I know, this is the quickest reg SS Pontiac powered car ever, unless their '74 SD455 Bird went quicker. Don't know what the best ever ET is, for either car.

But, both of those were stick cars, when they ran their quickest times. As far as I know, the John Angeles '69 RAIV Bird is the quickest ever reg SS Pontiac powered car, which had an auto trans. John's daughter, Keri, has done most of the driving, for many years now, & is said to have made the 1st ever 9 sec pass, in a reg SS Pontiac powered car, back in 2000.

Don't know what the car's quickest ever time is, in reg SS legal form. But I know it went 9.765, back in 2006. Don't think another reg SS Pontiac powered auto trans car has gone anywhere near that quick.

As always, if anybody knows this info to be incorrect, please post the correct info.

oldskool · 09-28-2020, 01:56 PM

At the 5th div 3 Lucas Oil Series race of 2020, Don Kennedy was #1 qualifier & the only car in the field more than a sec under his index. Not sure, but I assume that 9.042 ET was not far from the car's best ever ET. Have never seen a recorded time for the car, in the 8's.

9/26/20 - div 3-5 - #1 - 9.042 - 1.058 under.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2020#indextop

For any who may not know, Don's little Sunfire is powered by an alum head 428 Pontiac engine.

Alan Nyhus · 10-05-2020, 07:57 AM

Carrol Warling's beautiful GTO last weekend at Kearney, Ne. MCR event:

oldskool · 10-20-2020, 09:51 AM

This was one of the videos posted in the Stock/SS section.

@ the 10:16 point is Keri Angeles driving the John Angeles '69 SS Bird. This car & driver are said to be the 1st regular SS Pontiac 400 powered car to break into the 9's, back in 2000.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2001#indextop

Fastglen · 10-29-2020, 10:26 AM

Just a few words to complete the interesting Pontiac racing history some of you are compiling. I did purchase Jack Mullins 73 Super Duty. It had a stick and I changed to an automatic and really woke it up. The car had an impressive winning streak and did set a record in the process. As my friend John Clegg reminds me often, The biggest expense on the car was front tires, as we went through them often trying to adjust to the new "break out "rules. The previous picture of the flats were at the Winternationals during the quarter final round. There were several other simular episodes, so I decided to go comp racing in econo funny car with the former Gene Snow Snowman car (Pontiac Astra) this time with ram air v equipment. I returned to Super Stock with the Larry Pacey 74 Super Duty delivered to my home by Darrell Gwyn in his funny car hauler on the way to the west coast. The car was never defeated in National class events and won many local and Points races. We set the national record in SS/LA as a formula car powered with the 400 engine. It was this car that that got the attention of Kenny Bernstein and the Budweiser-Motorcraft group for the Super Team. I joined the Team as the Super Stock pilot in a Mustang and traded the 74 to John Clegg for a custom Weather Master 42 foot hauler built of course by John.
I have tried to trace the 73 car after I sold it to a young medical student in Houston but have been unsuccessful. The 74 is the car JB Clegg is now successfully campaigning. Hope this helps complete the interesting history on the previous pages.

Cstockbird · 06-25-2021, 04:14 PM

Anybody know where The Herslow & Morlock '73 SD455 Bird was an E/SA nat record holder car went? Is it’s still racing today as one of the current SS cars?

Mark Yacavone · 06-25-2021, 11:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cstockbird

Anybody know where The Herslow & Morlock '73 SD455 Bird was an E/SA nat record holder car went? Is it’s still racing today as one of the current SS cars?

It was converted to a 74 400 car. Phil Monteith owned it, I believe, and Sal Biondo won a race or two with it
I don't think it's one of the few that are still out there.

09-10-2020, 09:47 PM	#361
oldskool VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: The Land of Bayous, Boudin & Crawfish Posts: 1,668 Likes: 223 Liked 750 Times in 361 Posts	Re: Best Pontiac Powered Super Stockers There have been several Pontiac powered 4th gen GT BIrds. I suppose the Hatari Bird is the most famous. Leo Glasbrenner ran one for several years. The one I wanna look at next has been most recently driven by John Agneta. I've seen it referred to as the Johnny Duncan car. 3 pics I have were taken when Johnny was driving the car. His #3256 is on the windshield. The car also shows up, under Johnny's name, on the Auto Imagery site. I'm not sure of this, but another pic I have was said to be of a car that Sam Biondo was driving. Auto Imagery does indeed show a very similar looking car, under his name. So, until/unless I find out different, I'll assume it is the same car. That means that Sal & Peter Biondo probably also drove it some. So, the car probably made LOTS of races, while the Biondo's were racing it. Anyhow, it shows up on DRC as a '95 model, with Johnny Duncan driving, in 2008. 4/25/08 - Southern Nats - #53 - .860 under. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2008#indextop 5/16/08 - Thunder Valley Nats - #31 - .663 under. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2008#indextop 4/17/09 - Southern Nats - #45 - .854 under. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2009#indextop 7/19/14 - div 3 race - #56 - .538 under. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2014#indextop 10/19/14 - Northern Sports Nats - #49 - .609 under. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2014#indextop 6/19/15 - Thunder Valley Nats - #22 - .384 under. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2015#indextop I have no idea who owned it after Johnny, or who owns it now. Another Pontiac GT racer posted that when John Agneta drove it, the car had a 4X head 400 in it. At this race, Sean Pickett was driving it, listed as a '96 model. At that race, John Agneta was listed @ #27, driving a '98 Bird. That was said to be the Phil Monteith "Hatari" Bird. 8/19/17 - div 1-6 - #23 - .745 under. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop Attached Thumbnails Last edited by oldskool; 09-10-2020 at 09:53 PM.

09-12-2020, 02:07 PM	#362
oldskool VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: The Land of Bayous, Boudin & Crawfish Posts: 1,668 Likes: 223 Liked 750 Times in 361 Posts	Re: Best Pontiac Powered Super Stockers Hey, the Class Racer Nats came along just in time. A pic was posted showing what I assume is the red Bird I just mentioned, as well as the white Hatari Bird. It was posted that Sal Biondo is driving the white Bird, & Sean Pickett is driving the red Bird. Both cars now have "Hatari" on 'em. Don't know if that means that Phil Monteith owns both cars, or just that he has a hand in both. John Agneta posted that he & Sean Pickett own the red car, & Phil owns the white car, & that the white car has a Montieth Racing 428 & the red car a 400. Dylan Biondo's Stocker also has a small Hatari on it. So I assume that's also one of Phil's engines, or at least he had a hand in it. Attached Thumbnails Last edited by oldskool; 09-13-2020 at 08:57 PM.

09-12-2020, 07:37 PM	#363
oldskool VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: The Land of Bayous, Boudin & Crawfish Posts: 1,668 Likes: 223 Liked 750 Times in 361 Posts	Re: Best Pontiac Powered Super Stockers At Earlville, according to the DRTV video, Bill Rink's little '74 GTO was #1 qualifier in SS, @ 1.145 under ! https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...er=30#indextop Attached Thumbnails Last edited by oldskool; 09-13-2020 at 08:41 AM.

09-21-2020, 11:09 PM	#364
oldskool VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: The Land of Bayous, Boudin & Crawfish Posts: 1,668 Likes: 223 Liked 750 Times in 361 Posts	Re: Best Pontiac Powered Super Stockers At the Texas double, this past weekend. J.B. Clegg ran a 9.623, in the Clegg '73 SD455 Bird. As far as I know, this is the quickest reg SS Pontiac powered car ever, unless their '74 SD455 Bird went quicker. Don't know what the best ever ET is, for either car. But, both of those were stick cars, when they ran their quickest times. As far as I know, the John Angeles '69 RAIV Bird is the quickest ever reg SS Pontiac powered car, which had an auto trans. John's daughter, Keri, has done most of the driving, for many years now, & is said to have made the 1st ever 9 sec pass, in a reg SS Pontiac powered car, back in 2000. Don't know what the car's quickest ever time is, in reg SS legal form. But I know it went 9.765, back in 2006. Don't think another reg SS Pontiac powered auto trans car has gone anywhere near that quick. As always, if anybody knows this info to be incorrect, please post the correct info. Attached Thumbnails Last edited by oldskool; 09-21-2020 at 11:21 PM.

09-28-2020, 01:56 PM	#365
oldskool VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: The Land of Bayous, Boudin & Crawfish Posts: 1,668 Likes: 223 Liked 750 Times in 361 Posts	Re: Best Pontiac Powered Super Stockers At the 5th div 3 Lucas Oil Series race of 2020, Don Kennedy was #1 qualifier & the only car in the field more than a sec under his index. Not sure, but I assume that 9.042 ET was not far from the car's best ever ET. Have never seen a recorded time for the car, in the 8's. 9/26/20 - div 3-5 - #1 - 9.042 - 1.058 under. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2020#indextop For any who may not know, Don's little Sunfire is powered by an alum head 428 Pontiac engine. Attached Thumbnails Last edited by oldskool; 09-28-2020 at 02:13 PM.

10-05-2020, 07:57 AM	#366
Alan Nyhus VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Lower Dakota territory Posts: 1,163 Likes: 1,013 Liked 761 Times in 225 Posts	Re: Best Pontiac Powered Super Stockers Carrol Warling's beautiful GTO last weekend at Kearney, Ne. MCR event: __________________ "That'll never work....."

10-20-2020, 09:51 AM	#367
oldskool VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: The Land of Bayous, Boudin & Crawfish Posts: 1,668 Likes: 223 Liked 750 Times in 361 Posts	Re: Best Pontiac Powered Super Stockers This was one of the videos posted in the Stock/SS section. @ the 10:16 point is Keri Angeles driving the John Angeles '69 SS Bird. This car & driver are said to be the 1st regular SS Pontiac 400 powered car to break into the 9's, back in 2000. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2001#indextop Last edited by oldskool; 10-20-2020 at 09:56 AM.

10-29-2020, 10:26 AM	#368
Fastglen Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Houston Posts: 11 Likes: 0 Liked 3 Times in 2 Posts	Re: Best Pontiac Powered Super Stockers Just a few words to complete the interesting Pontiac racing history some of you are compiling. I did purchase Jack Mullins 73 Super Duty. It had a stick and I changed to an automatic and really woke it up. The car had an impressive winning streak and did set a record in the process. As my friend John Clegg reminds me often, The biggest expense on the car was front tires, as we went through them often trying to adjust to the new "break out "rules. The previous picture of the flats were at the Winternationals during the quarter final round. There were several other simular episodes, so I decided to go comp racing in econo funny car with the former Gene Snow Snowman car (Pontiac Astra) this time with ram air v equipment. I returned to Super Stock with the Larry Pacey 74 Super Duty delivered to my home by Darrell Gwyn in his funny car hauler on the way to the west coast. The car was never defeated in National class events and won many local and Points races. We set the national record in SS/LA as a formula car powered with the 400 engine. It was this car that that got the attention of Kenny Bernstein and the Budweiser-Motorcraft group for the Super Team. I joined the Team as the Super Stock pilot in a Mustang and traded the 74 to John Clegg for a custom Weather Master 42 foot hauler built of course by John. I have tried to trace the 73 car after I sold it to a young medical student in Houston but have been unsuccessful. The 74 is the car JB Clegg is now successfully campaigning. Hope this helps complete the interesting history on the previous pages. __________________ Glen Tinsley Last edited by Fastglen; 11-10-2020 at 11:27 AM. Reason: SS/LA instead of SS/MA

06-25-2021, 04:14 PM	#369
Cstockbird Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 17 Likes: 0 Liked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Re: Best Pontiac Powered Super Stockers Anybody know where The Herslow & Morlock '73 SD455 Bird was an E/SA nat record holder car went? Is it’s still racing today as one of the current SS cars?