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I’m so tired of the constant nhra bashing on here, particularly when so much of it is from non racers. |
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I don't understand the big shock value, this is nothing new. There was a website a few years back that allowed you to place bets on the Pro categories. I can't remember the name of the website at the moment, but could probably dig up the emails if someone really wanted to know. I'm thinking circa 2018-2019.
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Winlightbets is already one way to bet on dragracing. Seems to be doing well.
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So when the countdown starts getting to the end and there are
TEAM RULES are in effect Will the gambling site pay me for betting for pre determined win? I like to win$$$$
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SECTION 1: ADMINISTRATIVE PROCEDURES AND APPEALS, 1.3.1.2 GAMBLING POLICY (Page 4) (05/22/2024) National Hot Rod Association (NHRA) is committed to maintaining the integrity of its brand, racers, teams, and other stakeholders in drag racing. Gambling involving the NHRA presents integrity risks and can undermine the confidence and trust fans and the public have in NHRA and drag racing. This policy is intended to mitigate those risks and to safeguard our sport against potential threats from legal and illegal gambling. 1. WHO DOES THIS POLICY APPLY TO? This policy applies to all (a) NHRA employees, officers, and directors, (b) “participants” and “owner groups” as those terms are defined in the NHRA Rulebook, and (c) holders of certain credentials and passes, as determined by NHRA. “Participants” include team owners, drivers, crewpersons, and any person or entity that has any ownership interest in a race team, vehicle, or otherwise. For purposes of this policy, the persons described in (a), (b), and (c) are hereafter collectively referred to as “Covered Stakeholders.” NHRA reserves the right to pursue legal or disciplinary action under this policy based on gambling conduct against any person or entity, even if such person or entity is not defined above as a “Covered Stakeholder.” 2. WHAT CONSTITUTES “GAMBLING”? For purposes of this policy, “gambling” means the wagering of money or other things of value, on an event with an uncertain outcome with the intent of winning additional money or thing of value. Among other things, gambling includes: a. commercial gambling (whether for profit, charity, or anything else) that involves third parties (e.g., bookies, casinos, dealers, “the house”); b. wagering on sporting events or other athletic competitions, including placing wagers online, at sportsbooks, and similar establishments; c. private wagers between family, friends, and others; and d. wagers made in person, remotely (via telephone or the internet), or through a third-party “surrogate.” 3. PROHIBITED GAMBLING. a. Gambling on NHRA. Covered Stakeholders are prohibited from gambling on (i) any NHRA race, run, series, or event, including the Mission Foods Drag Racing Series, the Lucas Oil Drag Racing Series, and the Pro Mod Drag Racing Series, and (ii) anything NHRA determines could represent the potential for a conflict of interest, unsportsmanlike conduct, or other action(s) detrimental to drag racing or NHRA. There are no exceptions to this rule, even in circumstances in which the race, run, series, or event is conducted in a location 2024 NHRA RULE AMENDMENTS 10 where gambling is legal or in which the Covered Stakeholder is not participating. This rule prohibits gambling, either directly or indirectly, on the outcome, statistics, time, actions, or any other aspect of, or occurrence in, NHRA races, runs, series, or events or NHRA drag racing, including elapsed time, qualifying time and/or position, head- to-head results, event winner, series winner, lane choice, racer lineup, disciplinary matters (e.g., red lights, disqualifications), and weather delays. b. Illegal Gambling. Covered Stakeholders are prohibited from participating in or facilitating any form of illegal gambling, whether on NHRA, sports, or otherwise. For example, Covered Stakeholders may not gamble with offshore betting operators (e.g., Bovada), in jurisdictions in which gambling is not legal, or with betting operators that are not licensed or regulated in the applicable jurisdiction. 4. PERMISSIBLE GAMBLING. Not all gambling is prohibited by this policy. Covered Stakeholders may gamble in places where it is legal, so long as such gambling is not otherwise prohibited by this policy. For example, Covered Stakeholders may engage in traditional casino gambling (e.g., blackjack, slot machines, poker, craps, roulette) and gamble on non-NHRA sporting events. 5. FANTASY LEAGUES. Fantasy leagues are contests in which players assemble fictional teams of real world competitors (e.g., racers, athletes, etc.) from professional sports with the winners determined by reference to the statistics of those real world competitors. Some fantasy contests last an entire season (i.e., “commissioner-style fantasy leagues”), while others are as short as a day (i.e., “daily fantasy leagues”). Some fantasy leagues offer cash or other prizes, and some require an entry fee to participate. Participation by Covered Stakeholders in NHRA fantasy leagues that award cash prizes or other things of value could create an actual or perceived conflict of interest. Covered Stakeholders may also be perceived to have an unfair advantage due to their preferential access to information in certain instances. As a result, Covered Stakeholders are prohibited from participating in NHRA fantasy leagues that offer cash or other prizes, except such leagues that (a) do not award cash prizes or other things of value, or (b) award cash prizes or things of value valued at $500 or less. Covered Stakeholders are permitted to participate in fantasy leagues that involve non-NHRA sports (including leagues with prizes), so long as those fantasy leagues are legal where they are offered. |
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11 6. FIXING AND MANIPULATION. Covered Stakeholders must always give their best effort in connection with any NHRA race, run, series, or event. Failing to give best effort, or soliciting, encouraging, or inducing anyone to not give best effort for any purpose (whether or not gambling- related) is prohibited. Covered Stakeholders may not (a) throw or fix any NHRA race, run, series, or event, (b) influence the outcome or statistics of any NHRA race, run, series, or event, (c) manipulate or attempt to manipulate any aspect of any NHRA race, run, series, or event, or (d) intentionally act or fail to act to cause the outcome or any aspect of an NHRA race, run, series, or event to be determined by any factor other than its merits. An effort to do any of the foregoing does not need to be successful to violate this policy. 7. INSIDE INFORMATION AND TIPPING. Covered Stakeholders may possess access to confidential, non-public, or proprietary information (“Confidential Information”) that would be of interest to people engaged in or associated with gambling. Accordingly, Covered Stakeholders are prohibited from using, disclosing, or providing access to any Confidential Information regarding or related to any NHRA race, run, series, or event to anyone that is not a Covered Stakeholder, including information concerning (a) a participant’s vehicle or its parts, (b) a participant’s health, or (c) a participant’s disciplinary status. 8. OWNERSHIP AND EMPLOYMENT INTERESTS. Covered Stakeholders may not work for or operate, directly or indirectly, individually or through a business entity, any gambling entity (including any casino, sportsbook, or other establishment or business that offers gambling). Additionally, Covered Stakeholders may not own any interest in a gambling entity except for an interest in a publicly traded company that offers legal gambling, so long as the ownership stake is a de minimis percentage of the company’s shares outstanding. 9. PROMOTIONS; ASSOCIATIONAL RELATIONSHIPS. a. Covered Stakeholders may not promote, market, or associate with any gambling enterprise, brand, or gambling activity that is not in compliance with all applicable laws and regulations relating to gambling within the United States. b. Covered Stakeholders may not maintain relations with any person generally known to be (a) engaged in operating an illegal gambling business, (b) problem gamblers in a manner that 2024 NHRA RULE AMENDMENTS 12 discredits the reputation of the NHRA or drag racing; or (c) engaged in any other gambling-related activities that are prejudicial or detrimental to the NHRA or drag racing, regardless of whether an NHRA race, run, series, or event is involved. 10. REPORTING OBLIGATION. Covered Stakeholders have an affirmative obligation to report violations or potential violations of this policy, including improper approaches or solicitations by others. If (a) a Covered Stakeholder has a good faith reason to believe that another Covered Stakeholder has violated or attempted to violate this policy, or (b) someone asks a Covered Stakeholder to engage in conduct that would violate this policy, then the Covered Stakeholder must immediately report this information to Gambling@NHRA.com. Failure to report in accordance with the foregoing may result in disciplinary action. Retaliation against any individual who, in good faith, reports a violation of this policy is prohibited, even if an investigation finds that a violation did not occur. 11. DUTY TO COOPERATE. Covered Stakeholders are required to cooperate fully with any investigation concerning this policy, including producing relevant information, participating in interviews, and attending related proceedings. Covered Stakeholders are prohibited from soliciting or inducing others not to cooperate. 12. VIOLATIONS AND PENALTIES. Apparent or alleged violations of this policy by Covered Stakeholders will be decided by the President of NHRA or his designee on a case-by-case basis. Violations of this policy will subject the involved Covered Stakeholder(s) to appropriate disciplinary action determined by the President of NHRA. Disciplinary action may include severe penalties up to and including fines, suspensions, termination of employment, and/or banishment from NHRA for life. Violating this policy may also subject the offending Covered Stakeholder(s) to penalties under civil or criminal law. 13. EDUCATION REQUIRED. Covered Stakeholders are required to complete the NHRA-mandated e-learning tutorial upon the launch of NHRA’s sports gambling initiative. Thereafter, Covered Stakeholders will be required to complete the training prior to the start of each NHRA season or when NHRA provides an updated tutorial with new policy guidance, prior to receiving an approved license. Proof of completion will automatically be provided to NHRA when a Covered Stakeholder has completed the tutorial. 14. ASSISTANCE AND RESOURCES. If you or someone you know has a gambling problem, toll- free and confidential help is available 24 hours a day, 7 days a week through the National Council on Problem 2024 NHRA RULE AMENDMENTS 13 Gambling. Call (800) GAMBLER, text 800GAM, or go to www.1800gamblerchat.org |
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So now we will have to complete their "training course" to ensure that nobody will ever cheat or fix a race?
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Does anyone have a link to the training course materials? 13. Should have ended the same way 14. Did, with a link to the Required Education website, along w/ phone #'s etc. to get instant answers to questions or help.
I understand we are (many of us hete on CR at least though not all), are stakeholders, but I have a ton of questions as to #7. And would say Build threads here (and materials posted therein violate 7., and the posting of certain possible health info also violate 7......? Oy, this could certainly get pretty complicated and pretty much make forums like CR a ghost town for fear of violating certain policies contained and listed within 7. While reading those 2 posts above, I certainly recognize that I am a stakeholder, and that I therefore cannot gamble on anything NHRA Race related, but did not understand who can be gambled on by others not Stakeholders, so really do not fully understand who is or is not covered under the umbrella of "will be gambled on" in the final result...Just the Pro's or everyone racing in NHRA? NHRA racing just got a lot more complicated. Or did it? I don't yet even know. Lots of questions and very few answers.
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I can't wait to see how the NHRA is going to enforce #6 - fixing and manipulating - when the countdown is in full force.
There's a large group that I don't need to name that has been doing that for years with nothing (that I have ever heard of) being done. Uh, dunno, I missed the light. Ya know, that might have been the wrong setting for the clutch/line chip.... |
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For anyone following how other sports are doing on this front there are many participants and officials being disciplined for improper manipulation of results. I?m still maintaining that this is a very slippery slope for NHRA.
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