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Old 05-28-2010, 10:28 AM   #11
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Danny,
Thank you,,,but you must add a car to the 'muslcecar' thread.......
Even if its a 1965 Dodge Polara with a 225 6-cylinder Hyper-Pak!!
On Dick Landy, yes lots of hidden stuff.
Kind of the bridesmaid to Sox & Martin, on the Mopar factory stuff.
His general complaint, the B-Body Dodge's were about a 100lbs. heavier than the Plymouth's, cost him about .15 in ET.
There's a video of him at New York National Speedway, I think the
68' Super/Stock Magazine Nationals (July 68) in SS/B, with the Hemi Dart. It might be on BEEONVIDEO.
I'll check.
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Dick Landy himself was heavier compared to Ronnie Sox and that was significant as the NHRA didnt count the drivers wt. when weighing the cars after each round. Before his passing he was a big healthy robust guy.
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X-Tech,
I forgot about mass-weight.
Your right, Dick an easy 60-75lbs. heavier than the svelte Ronnie Sox.
Looks like Nutri-System and low-fat Yogurt were a little late for D.L.
Too many hot dogs and burgers with fries, on the road trips.
Bet Dick never said, more 'romaine lettuce'.
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Tim,
On the article, he got the first 68' Hemi Dart at the end of February 68'.
Supposedly via railroad box-freight.
The first one was set-up as an automatic, in match-race trim.
The second one, as a legal SS/B 4-speed.
NHRA didn't approve them for S/S class, until just before the 68'
Springnationals at Englishtown. But several cars were out their
running in S/S in May.
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Old 05-28-2010, 06:31 PM   #14
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X-Tech,
I forgot about mass-weight.
Your right, Dick an easy 60-75lbs. heavier than the svelte Ronnie Sox.
Looks like Nutri-System and low-fat Yogurt were a little late for D.L.
Too many hot dogs and burgers with fries, on the road trips.
Bet Dick never said, more 'romaine lettuce'.
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Dick liked his Tyrolia Wine to.
I believe he car we bought was his 5th Dodge. I financed it through a bank, and he had Mike put a number (vin) on it. Paid $4500 (I think) for the roller no motor or trans. Rented a trailer in New York a towed it to California to pick up the car. With a slant six plymouth fury.
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Old 05-28-2010, 10:08 PM   #15
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Dick liked his Tyrolia Wine to.
I believe he car we bought was his 5th Dodge. I financed it through a bank, and he had Mike put a number (vin) on it. Paid $4500 (I think) for the roller no motor or trans. Rented a trailer in New York a towed it to California to pick up the car. With a slant six plymouth fury.


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Art,
Smart move to head out to California with a 225 Slant-6.
You can't kill those things.
I bet if you put the 6-banger in the Challenger, (as is after the California tow trip)), run SS/X,Y or Z, you probably would have set the record.
Not too many sold cars got the 'secret' motor and transmissions!

Tim,
On the 68' Winternationals. I think the SS/EA record was a soft 12.20 or so, set by either a 67' GTX 440/375HP or 67' Camaro 396/325HP in
late 67'. The 68 GSS 440 Dart ran pretty much 12.00's throughout, but I'll check it for you.
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Tim,
1968 NHRA Winternationals
Landy won the SS/EA class final with a 12.01 @118.73 over
Gas Ronda with a 12.02 @116.27.
In Super/Stock Eliminator, they met again, in the First round. Landy won
with a 11.91.
The famous photo of the Winternationals by Larry Davis, with the
GSS 440 Dart and SS/E Al Joniec Cobra-Jet Mustang is the
semi-final for S/S Eliminator.
Butch Leal was driving the car, and he ran an 11.81, but red-lighted.
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Old 05-29-2010, 11:48 AM   #18
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Tim,
The finals, Al Joniec versus Dave Wren.
I think the Dave Wren car was a 63' steel-nosed Max-wedge Plymouth car. Ram-air hood scoop, 415HP.
Sponsored by '93 Chrysler-Plymouth' out of Missoula. Montana.
Car was the SS/DA National Record holder, but I think was classed in SS/D for the Winternationals.

As for the A/MP stuff. That book states Dick ran a 10.49 in the 'lightened' Charger.

But I think the NHRA B/MP record was 11.33 at that time, and held by Dick Arons in a Motion/Performance backed Camaro.
In no uncertain terms, any of the 'factory-backed' racers were told to stay away from A/MP for the time being, in 1968. I think the
B/MP class winner E.T. at the 68' Indy Nationals was an 11.44.
So my info does sound correct.
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Art,
Smart move to head out to California with a 225 Slant-6.
You can't kill those things.
I bet if you put the 6-banger in the Challenger, (as is after the California tow trip)), run SS/X,Y or Z, you probably would have set the record.
Not too many sold cars got the 'secret' motor and transmissions!

Tim,
On the 68' Winternationals. I think the SS/EA record was a soft 12.20 or so, set by either a 67' GTX 440/375HP or 67' Camaro 396/325HP in
late 67'. The 68 GSS 440 Dart ran pretty much 12.00's throughout, but I'll check it for you.
Paul
The Challenger would have had to have some mods to be able to run Superstock. But it would have made a killer street race car at the time.
We were going to run it in B/G with a clutchflite trans.
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Art,
Did your Challenger come with a VIN tag?
From what I've heard, quite a few of them got removed from DLI's inventory of cars.
Did you ever see him at New York National 68'/69'/70'?
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