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Old 12-20-2019, 11:03 AM   #1
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Question AHFS question......am a bit confused

Ok, many years ago I got 2 HP off the 77 AMC 258 114 2 barrel combo. The 77 AMC Pacer running the same 258 114 2 barrel combo also got the 2 HP reduction down to 148HP.

In mid year 2016 the 77 Pacer running the same motor combo got the 2 HP put back on back to 150HP for both the 77 pacer and the 77 Gremlin. I assumed that it was the engine family rule as before.

Now the 77 Pacer gets the 2 HP off back to 148, shouldn't the 77 Gremlin running the same Engine Combo, also go to 148HP?

Before I send a letter to Tech, asking for clarification.

Thanks

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Old 12-20-2019, 06:46 PM   #2
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Yes, send letter...when you are dealing with Pat C.....the left hand doesn’t know what the right hand is doing !!!
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Old 12-20-2019, 07:26 PM   #3
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I received a hp reduction one year, and it applied to several other combos.. However, when they updated the guide(s), mine was not updated but all the other combo's were. I had to write them to get it fixed, so definitely write the letter.
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If you write a letter who do you write it to and what's the address
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Old 12-20-2019, 09:59 PM   #5
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If you write a letter who do you write it to and what's the address
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Old 12-21-2019, 11:13 AM   #6
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Thanks All, shall write it over the weekend.

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Ok, many years ago I got 2 HP off the 77 AMC 258 114 2 barrel combo. The 77 AMC Pacer running the same 258 114 2 barrel combo also got the 2 HP reduction down to 148HP.

In mid year 2016 the 77 Pacer running the same motor combo got the 2 HP put back on back to 150HP for both the 77 pacer and the 77 Gremlin. I assumed that it was the engine family rule as before.

Now the 77 Pacer gets the 2 HP off back to 148, shouldn't the 77 Gremlin running the same Engine Combo, also go to 148HP?

Before I send a letter to Tech, asking for clarification.

Thanks

Eric
The 77 Gremlin should have never got HP in the first place. The 2 HP hit was due to a couple of fast runs in a Pacer which is a completely different car and considerably heavier.

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Old 12-31-2019, 11:41 AM   #8
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The 77 Gremlin should have never got HP in the first place. The 2 HP hit was due to a couple of fast runs in a Pacer which is a completely different car and considerably heavier.

Jim Mantle V/SA 6632
Thanks Jim, and all, sent letter off yesterday afternoon to Pat. Am hopeful to be able to pull the spare tire out of the trunk next year.

2hp isn't much to the fast cars of the world, but 38 pounds is quite a bit to the slow motion travesty of justice of all that is holy that is the Gremlin.

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Check NHRA competition,looks like it's back to 148 HP as of yesterday...gsa612
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Old 01-22-2020, 01:35 PM   #10
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Default Re: AHFS question......am a bit confused

...and yet my 1979 Spirit/AMX, using the very same smog 258 engine as these '77-79 cars do, the same head, same intake, and the same carburetion, is still listed at 150. Really on the ball out there aren't they? You'd think they'd look down the charts for what this engine combo was used in and adjust them all, but I guess not.


Doesn't matter to me yet, as I can't reach the index without a big influx of money, but someday I hope to be writing too.
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