throttle stop motor on dyno question

[flash]

anybody dyno there supergas motors with stop on motor-wide open of course? then take the stop off to see the horsepower loss incurred by having that restriction on the motor.

[SC363B]

Never on dyno but I always took my under the carb TS off to run Q16 with my SC dragster It would run 3-4 hundredths quicker.

[Rich Biebel]

My friend did.....and on Q-15 which is a 50-50 mix of Q-16 and a std fuel that I don't recall what fuel that is.....

His 582 with a Sunset Plate stop (tapered bottom) vs no stop was about 20-30 hp difference....IIRC....over 1000HP with and without the plate...

I borrowed his stop and won a race with it and also ran Q-15 for a while myself....

[Hacksaw]

VP C-15 is a 50/50 mix of C-16 and C-14. Q-16 is an oxygenated fuel.

[Rich Biebel]

Q-15 is a mix Gary Stinett supposedly tried and is what I was referring to.

A 50/50 mix of Q-16 and a non oxygenated fuel. I just don't recall what that fuel was.....C-14 or C-16 ...or ?


My buddy ran it for a few seasons and won numerous races with it.

His carb was calibrated for it.....and dyno'ed with it.

I ran it for a while and just upped my jets a few sizes.

It ran fine and is worth a solid 2 MPH...

Our friend and VP dealer supplied it to us at the races....

Very offensive fumes and I was more than happy to stop using it.....

You definitely know when your handling "funny gas" as someone once called it...

[shawnfricke]

Q16 + C15 = Q15

I used it and we still run it in one car, works well as long as you're tuned up properly.

Shawn

[Lenny5160]

My 468 that I ran many years ago was about a 670 hp piece, and it lost 7 HP on the dyno with the stop installed vs a 4-hole spacer of equal height.

[Charlie Yannetti]

We dynoed my SG 565 on C-14+.. with and without the throttle stop on the motor changed the power by 20hp average.. needless to say, going back to an inline stop...

[Rich Biebel]

Charlie I would not do that myself.....

Trust me when I tell you an inline stop is way more likely to cause your car to not run the number you expected it to....

Yea I am sure some people have had success with one and I won races with one myself , but overall a plate stop is a better choice.....

I tried various inline stops, changed cables, adjusted everything and looked for variations many times......different fuels......all the same result......occasional runs not where they should be and usually at the worst time.

I switched to a Plate stop.......2 different models......air operated.......and none of those issues.

I also am running more MPH than ever and using a plate....and on Sunoco Red or any other std fuel.....like X-16

Inline stop is good for bracket racing.....starting line control.....

I had both on my car at one time and could switch back and forth.

Took inline off and threw it in a Box..... A Plate stop for the win.....LOL

[Lenny5160]

Originally Posted by Rich Biebel

Charlie I would not do that myself.....

Trust me when I tell you an inline stop is way more likely to cause your car to not run the number you expected it to....

Yea I am sure some people have had success with one and I won races with one myself , but overall a plate stop is a better choice.....

I tried various inline stops, changed cables, adjusted everything and looked for variations many times......different fuels......all the same result......occasional runs not where they should be and usually at the worst time.

I switched to a Plate stop.......2 different models......air operated.......and none of those issues.

I also am running more MPH than ever and using a plate....and on Sunoco Red or any other std fuel.....like X-16

Inline stop is good for bracket racing.....starting line control.....

I had both on my car at one time and could switch back and forth.

Took inline off and threw it in a Box..... A Plate stop for the win.....LOL

Couldn't agree more, Rich. I use an inline stop with mechanical injection as you used to do. If I bring it all the way back to idle on the stop, it is good. I've tried carrying some RPM down the track, and it is all over the place.

The plate stop under the carb on my door car is very good.

I would gladly give up 20 hp for the stability a plate stop brings.