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Old 11-28-2024, 10:23 PM   #21
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I could educate many here on headers as I did Jere!
Did you ever have any further communication with Jere after schooling him on headers?
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Old 11-28-2024, 11:04 PM   #22
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First time I talked to Jere was in the mid 70's when I built my first flow bench. He was extremely helpful.
Fast forward to 1989 and I was building a Dyno cell. I called and he remembered me. He really helped with the design of the cell. (kept me from making mistakes) I got a large envelope with hand written notes and suggestions from him. He even drew up some dyno specific headers for the most common engines I ran. I guess we just clicked. He was always helpful. The last set of headers I got from him were for one of my best friends SBC Monza...were heck to put on, but worked well. The set of headers he did for my D/Gas Vette back in the mid 70's were the best on the car. I never found any headers that went down track as quick as his set did. I have often wondered how many guys like me there were scattered around the country that he helped out.



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There were a few. Jere helped several really fast guys, and made them even faster. I know he helped Holroyd, Wikle, Lynch, and a host of others. Like I said, Jere, Bill, and WJ, did not, (and in the case of WJ,do not) suffer fools gladly. But if you asked good questions, listened, paid attention, and did as they suggested, you could count on getting help and going faster.


Jere probably had more dyno data, and more information on dyno cells and equipment, than anyone in the country. That's actually how I became friends with Jere. Clark and Darrell had been helping me, so had Keith. Clark told me to get a set of headers from Jere for Kevin's car. I called Jere, and the questions began. After about 20 minutes of discussing the car and engine, he asked me how much dyno testing we had, and what the data looked like. I told him I had about 20 hours, and a ton of pulls. Next question was "how good was the data?" I immediately said "well, the cell is not ideal, and I'm not a great operator, I think my data only repeats within 2%-4% at best." He immediately said "you're the first SOB I ever asked that question who didn't tell me his dyno repeated to 1%". We set about ordering the headers, and Jere began calling me weekly, asked me to buy a recorder to record our conversations as he did. We talked very often until his health got really bad, and then I hated to call and bother him. He actually asked Kevin and me to buy the header company, but we were at NitroPlate at the time and Kevin felt it would not be a good idea.
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Old 11-29-2024, 09:58 AM   #23
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Did you ever have any further communication with Jere after schooling him on headers?
I did, he called me to discuss my headers again as he was building a set for a similar combo.
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Old 11-29-2024, 04:19 PM   #24
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...Like I said, Jere, Bill, and WJ, did not, (and in the case of WJ,do not) suffer fools gladly. But if you asked good questions, listened, paid attention, and did as they suggested, you could count on getting help and going faster.

Bullseye. He actually confided in me once that he'd fake not really understanding something (that he knew inside and out) and ask a person to explain it to him. If they passed and didn't just spout BS (mostly before we had trolls like the one here) then the conversation would begin.

He was the single person I had the most problems keeping up with while we were talking. And I was lucky enough to be in the position to talk tech with some of the giants and historic racers of the time. He was a firehose of information, things I'd never considered, and with concepts that were very different to what I'd come to believe. While it was still dawning on me he was exactly right, he'd be on to at least another factor or two. I always wanted to lie down and take a nap afterwards as it was mentally exhausting. Yes, a slight exaggeration on that but not about the incredible way his mind worked.
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Bullseye. He actually confided in me once that he'd fake not really understanding something (that he knew inside and out) and ask a person to explain it to him. If they passed and didn't just spout BS (mostly before we had trolls like the one here) then the conversation would begin.

He was the single person I had the most problems keeping up with while we were talking. And I was lucky enough to be in the position to talk tech with some of the giants and historic racers of the time. He was a firehose of information, things I'd never considered, and with concepts that were very different to what I'd come to believe. While it was still dawning on me he was exactly right, he'd be on to at least another factor or two. I always wanted to lie down and take a nap afterwards as it was mentally exhausting. Yes, a slight exaggeration on that but not about the incredible way his mind worked.

They all needed shirts that said "Does Not Suffer Fools Gladly". My mentor Jimmy Bridges is like that, too. Men on a mission, they loved to teach, but had zero time for those who thought they knew more than they did, and refused to learn. One Monday after PRI, Jere called me, and asked "how in the Hell do you put up with _____", he had met a former associate of mine at the NitroPlate booth when he was looking for Kevin Cradduck and me.
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It's unbelievable to me that a non performance class racer can school Jere Stahl and believe he did. This takes the cake. Delusional?
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Another pathetic old man, living in the past that no longer races and thinks his heros from back in the day are the end all that be all. WRONG!

I'm sure there a few old men today that are no longer competitive, running decades old headers built by Jere Meanwhile the majority of stock/super stock racers are running headers built by others and running quicker and faster than ever before including the 2024 Stock Eliminator National Champion!

Drag racing has move on long ago from Jere. Again, the guy cut, bent and welded tubing.

WJ too WAS the man in Pro stock until others came along that knew more then he was an also ran.

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Old 11-29-2024, 07:22 PM   #28
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ROFLMFAO.


WJ was outspent about 5:1, and decided to quit rather than go bankrupt. WJ invented all the DRCE stuff everyone uses to this day.
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Old 11-29-2024, 07:23 PM   #29
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Tell me something I don't know! Bottomline is WJ could not longer compete, the class passed him by, FACT!
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Another pathetic old man, living in the past that no longer races and thinks his heros from back in the day are the end all that be all. WRONG!

I'm sure there a few old men today that are no longer competitive, running decades old headers built by Jere Meanwhile the majority of stock/super stock racers are running headers built by others and running quicker and faster than ever before including the 2024 Stock Eliminator National Champion!

Drag racing has move on long ago from Jere. Again, the guy cut, bent and welded tubing.

WJ too WAS the man in Pro stock until others came along that knew more then he was an also ran.
Why the repeated references to Stock/Superstock. You are NOT and never have been a Stock/Superstock racer and your .90 Firebird is NOT a superstocker.
You are a clown who no real class racer takes serious?Go Away
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