Pure stock cutlass build up

kellintrans · 05-19-2014, 01:55 AM

Hello, my name is Chris Lindell, and I am a newbie to class racing. I am building a 1987 Olds Cutlass Salon to compete in IHRA I/PS.

My goal is to see how far under the index (14.55) I can get with a combination most people consider junk and throw away.

307 cid engine
200 metric trans
7.5" rear

I am also very cheap by nature, and do not like spending a lot of money on this stuff. It will be a fun challenge!!

Dan Fahey · 05-19-2014, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by kellintrans

Hello, my name is Chris Lindell, and I am a newbie to class racing. I am building a 1987 Olds Cutlass Salon to compete in IHRA I/PS.

My goal is to see how far under the index (14.55) I can get with a combination most people consider junk and throw away.

307 cid engine
200 metric trans
7.5" rear

I am also very cheap by nature, and do not like spending a lot of money on this stuff. It will be a fun challenge!!

Understand your POV.
Racing is not cheap..
However the car is the least expensive.
It is the travel, pit fees, and motel.

The 307 is very popular especially with a QJet.
Your rear is strong enough, parts are available.
Engine, Trans, rear, and converter with be your largest investments.

Ping Billy Nees...

D

George W · 05-19-2014, 12:04 PM

Chris sounds like a great project,I am in the same boat as you as being new to the world of class racing.

Daran Summerton · 05-19-2014, 05:03 PM

Send the money to venolia for replacement pistons - you cannot due without them! 4.56 in the 7.5 is plenty. Have fun

Charlie A · 05-19-2014, 05:44 PM

LOTS of G body stuff here:

http://www.maliburacing.com/

http://gbodyforum.com/index.php?sid=...b#.U3p6K5VOW00

If you are cheap (isn't everyone?) you will find interchange info for 7.5 gears-rearends-steering-suspension and more.

KennyAnderson · 05-19-2014, 09:11 PM

Hey Chris, welcome in!! I'm in the same boat as you but a lil farther along. I have a 93 Z28 that we built up and are running in D/PS. Bought the car last September from a bud who was footbrake racing it and we went to town. So far I have done headers/muffs, stripped a ton of stuff, great FTI converter, a 12 bolt rear swap (broke the 10 bolt after about 40 runs), good computer tune, etc. So far we have been .39 under with a bone stock 160k LT1. More importantly the car is a very good footbraker, I have been as high as 4th in div 2 points and just scored a R/U at the last Southern Stock/Super stock combo race. This car is going to be a first big car for my oldest son who is about to graduate from junior dragsters. I have about 6k total investment in it and on a fun per dollar scale this car kicks *****!!

PS. I have a near new 4.10 gear and assembly kit from my 7.5" 10 bolt that I'll make you a killer deal on if it will fit your rear. Mine broke the posi and I already had the 12 bolt standing by.

kellintrans · 05-19-2014, 11:17 PM

Thanks for the replies. I got a good deal on 4.10 gears, and got them installed last weekend. I have a part time transmission shop, so I am building my own 200c transmission from a core I have had laying around for a few years. No one else wants it...I am also getting a good deal on a 4000 rpm converter.

I am kind of building the car from the back to the front. I am going to throw a non-ecm controlled quadrajet and distributor in it, a set of headers/mufflers, and take it to Cecil County to see what it runs. The motor only has 60,000 miles on it, and runs pretty good.

I want to get a baseline on it, and go from there. I hope to have it down there next month.

kellintrans · 05-19-2014, 11:28 PM

Dan,

I read Billy Nees' "Under the index for under a grand" start to finish one night, and that is what kind of kicked me in the can to do something. There is still room for the little guy with a mortgage payment to compete. You just have to be creative, and I think Pure stock is the perfect place to start. Kind of how Junior stock was in the late 60's.

kellintrans · 05-19-2014, 11:48 PM

Kenny,

I followed the build up on your Camaro, as well. It was also a source of inspiration for me to do something with my car.
I figured, if you could blast on a oem motor with 160,000 miles on it, and have it run that well, (especially with the dollar amount you have invested) I really have no excuse not to at least try to do the same with my bucket of bolts.

kwm · 05-19-2014, 11:50 PM

which 307 are you running?
138 HP or 140HP

05-19-2014, 01:55 AM	#1
kellintrans Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Middletown, DE Posts: 30 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Pure Stock Cutlass build up Hello, my name is Chris Lindell, and I am a newbie to class racing. I am building a 1987 Olds Cutlass Salon to compete in IHRA I/PS. My goal is to see how far under the index (14.55) I can get with a combination most people consider junk and throw away. 307 cid engine 200 metric trans 7.5" rear I am also very cheap by nature, and do not like spending a lot of money on this stuff. It will be a fun challenge!! Attached Thumbnails Last edited by kellintrans; 05-19-2014 at 02:13 AM.

05-19-2014, 12:04 PM	#3
George W Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 57 Likes: 25 Liked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Re: Pure stock cutlass build up Chris sounds like a great project,I am in the same boat as you as being new to the world of class racing.

05-19-2014, 05:03 PM	#4
Daran Summerton Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Las Vegas nv Posts: 599 Likes: 18 Liked 66 Times in 37 Posts	Re: Pure stock cutlass build up Send the money to venolia for replacement pistons - you cannot due without them! 4.56 in the 7.5 is plenty. Have fun __________________ 72 cutlass

05-19-2014, 05:44 PM	#5
Charlie A VIP Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Mississippi Gulf Coast Posts: 2,483 Likes: 68 Liked 87 Times in 63 Posts	Re: Pure stock cutlass build up LOTS of G body stuff here: http://www.maliburacing.com/ http://gbodyforum.com/index.php?sid=...b#.U3p6K5VOW00 If you are cheap (isn't everyone?) you will find interchange info for 7.5 gears-rearends-steering-suspension and more. Last edited by Charlie A; 12-01-2015 at 07:51 PM.

05-19-2014, 09:11 PM	#6
KennyAnderson Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Posts: 249 Likes: 25 Liked 248 Times in 86 Posts	Re: Pure stock cutlass build up Hey Chris, welcome in!! I'm in the same boat as you but a lil farther along. I have a 93 Z28 that we built up and are running in D/PS. Bought the car last September from a bud who was footbrake racing it and we went to town. So far I have done headers/muffs, stripped a ton of stuff, great FTI converter, a 12 bolt rear swap (broke the 10 bolt after about 40 runs), good computer tune, etc. So far we have been .39 under with a bone stock 160k LT1. More importantly the car is a very good footbraker, I have been as high as 4th in div 2 points and just scored a R/U at the last Southern Stock/Super stock combo race. This car is going to be a first big car for my oldest son who is about to graduate from junior dragsters. I have about 6k total investment in it and on a fun per dollar scale this car kicks *****!! PS. I have a near new 4.10 gear and assembly kit from my 7.5" 10 bolt that I'll make you a killer deal on if it will fit your rear. Mine broke the posi and I already had the 12 bolt standing by.

05-19-2014, 11:17 PM	#7
kellintrans Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Middletown, DE Posts: 30 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Pure stock cutlass build up Thanks for the replies. I got a good deal on 4.10 gears, and got them installed last weekend. I have a part time transmission shop, so I am building my own 200c transmission from a core I have had laying around for a few years. No one else wants it...I am also getting a good deal on a 4000 rpm converter. I am kind of building the car from the back to the front. I am going to throw a non-ecm controlled quadrajet and distributor in it, a set of headers/mufflers, and take it to Cecil County to see what it runs. The motor only has 60,000 miles on it, and runs pretty good. I want to get a baseline on it, and go from there. I hope to have it down there next month. Last edited by kellintrans; 05-19-2014 at 11:52 PM.

05-19-2014, 11:28 PM	#8
kellintrans Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Middletown, DE Posts: 30 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Pure stock cutlass build up Dan, I read Billy Nees' "Under the index for under a grand" start to finish one night, and that is what kind of kicked me in the can to do something. There is still room for the little guy with a mortgage payment to compete. You just have to be creative, and I think Pure stock is the perfect place to start. Kind of how Junior stock was in the late 60's. Last edited by kellintrans; 05-19-2014 at 11:31 PM.

05-19-2014, 11:48 PM	#9
kellintrans Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Middletown, DE Posts: 30 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Pure stock cutlass build up Kenny, I followed the build up on your Camaro, as well. It was also a source of inspiration for me to do something with my car. I figured, if you could blast on a oem motor with 160,000 miles on it, and have it run that well, (especially with the dollar amount you have invested) I really have no excuse not to at least try to do the same with my bucket of bolts.

05-19-2014, 11:50 PM	#10
kwm Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: London KY Posts: 94 Likes: 744 Liked 4 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Pure stock cutlass build up which 307 are you running? 138 HP or 140HP __________________ Kenny Miracle P/SA 310