Wow Tiffany Trump

[jwsamuel]

Originally Posted by Grey Ghost

1. Biff didn't take advantage of his name. Daddy took advantage of his VP position. Suppose he figured if Hillary can do it as secretary of state why not him.

Makes no sense at all. Again, if you are going to say that was wrong for Hunter Biden then say the same thing about Donald Trump and all his kids. Don't be a hypocrite.

Originally Posted by Grey Ghost

2. Quid-pro Joe demanded a prosecutor investigating Biff's Ukrainian company be fired or Obummer was going to with hold Ukrainian aid.

Wrong. There was a large group of countries and organizations -- including the International Monetary Fund, the Europeanm Union, investors and others -- who were demanding the Vikto Shoken be fired. Biden led that effort and was actually supported in a letter signed by Republican senators Rob Portman, Mark Kirk and Ron Johnson, as well as Democratic senators Dick Durbin, Jeanne Shaheen, Chris Murphy, Sherrod Brown, and Richard Blumenthal.

Meanwhile, Trump tried to use extortion to force Ukarine into a phony investigation of Biden and Burisma solely so he could have a message to use against Buiden. That's what the impeachment was about. You seem to forget about that.

Originally Posted by Grey Ghost

3. Neither one of them, Biff or daddy, have ever had a private sector job for any lenght of time yet daddy has accumulated vast wealth on a "public servants" salary for 48 years. Explain that.

As a Senator, Biden made about $174,000/year. As VP, he made $230,000/year. Biden made money from and $8 million book deal and speaking engagements. He was also a professor at the University of Pennsylvania. Curiously, it is easy to tell how Biden made his money because he has released his tax returns and financial records -- something Trump has refused to do.

Here's how Biden did it: https://www.townandcountrymag.com/so...den-net-worth/

Interestingly, Jared Kushner and Ivanbka Trump made nearly $225 million while they have been working on "public servants" salaries.

But if you want to compare politician's wealth, Mitch McConnell is worth $22.5 million. How did he accumulate that on a "public servant" salary?

[Grey Ghost]

Originally Posted by jwsamuel

Makes no sense at all. Again, if you are going to say that was wrong for Hunter Biden then say the same thing about Donald Trump and all his kids. Don't be a hypocrite.





Wrong. There was a large group of countries and organizations -- including the International Monetary Fund, the Europeanm Union, investors and others -- who were demanding the Vikto Shoken be fired. Biden led that effort and was actually supported in a letter signed by Republican senators Rob Portman, Mark Kirk and Ron Johnson, as well as Democratic senators Dick Durbin, Jeanne Shaheen, Chris Murphy, Sherrod Brown, and Richard Blumenthal.

Meanwhile, Trump tried to use extortion to force Ukarine into a phony investigation of Biden and Burisma solely so he could have a message to use against Buiden. That's what the impeachment was about. You seem to forget about that.



As a Senator, Biden made about $174,000/year. As VP, he made $230,000/year. Biden made money from and $8 million book deal and speaking engagements. He was also a professor at the University of Pennsylvania. Curiously, it is easy to tell how Biden made his money because he has released his tax returns and financial records -- something Trump has refused to do.

Here's how Biden did it: https://www.townandcountrymag.com/so...den-net-worth/

Interestingly, Jared Kushner and Ivanbka Trump made nearly $225 million while they have been working on "public servants" salaries.

But if you want to compare politician's wealth, Mitch McConnell is worth $22.5 million. How did he accumulate that on a "public servant" salary?

I didn't know any of that. I guess I need to start watching the DNC owned fantasy channels.

Has Trump secured board of directors positions or billion $ credit lines for any of his kids since becoming president, in the U.S. or abroad? Trump's childern were making big money prior to being elected.

Impeachment...how did that work out for you? Trump's still there AND seeking a 2nd term!!!

Old Joe has numerous multi-million dollar estates...he must be very frugal with his salary! Where/who do you think ponyed up $8million for a non-selling book? McConnell married into a shipping fortune...DOT secretary Margaret Chow.

The Ukraine. Believe what you want. Just remember Lying Joe said he wasn't involved in the Trump/Russian collusion hoax either. He's been placed in the oval office by the former AG discussing strategy with obummer and all the other lying sobs you so cherish.

[Steve Polhill]

Originally Posted by Grey Ghost

I didn't know any of that. I guess I need to start watching the DNC owned fantasy channels.

Has Trump secured board of directors positions or billion $ credit lines for any of his kids since becoming president, in the U.S. or abroad? Trump's childern were making big money prior to being elected.

Impeachment...how did that work out for you? Trump's still there AND seeking a 2nd term!!!

Old Joe has numerous multi-million dollar estates...he must be very frugal with his salary! Where/who do you think ponyed up $8million for a non-selling book? McConnell married into a shipping fortune...DOT secretary Margaret Chow.

The Ukraine. Believe what you want. Just remember Lying Joe said he wasn't involved in the Trump/Russian collusion hoax either. He's been placed in the oval office by the former AG discussing strategy with obummer and all the other lying sobs you so cherish.

Maybe not the exact thing but Trump and his children have defrauded a charity for Millions, and Trump secured several impossible to get Chinese trademarks for Ivanka's Clothing line. Not to mention Pardoning all his buddies that didn't rat him out.

If you are going to point the finger at Biden for wrong doing then point 10 fingers back at trump for the same. The man is corrupt as the day is long and saying that Biden is worse is laughable.

[jwsamuel]

Originally Posted by Steve Polhill

If you are going to point the finger at Biden for wrong doing then point 10 fingers back at trump for the same. The man is corrupt as the day is long and saying that Biden is worse is laughable.

Your forgot Trump University.

[Lew Silverman]

(When did the Lounge become a "Free Fire Zone"? )


And while we're at it, let us not forget to mention our president's* Sister, who had to step down from a "life-time" appointment as a Federal Judge ahead of an investigation into improprieties surrounding tax liabilities with Fred Trump's estate. There's a reason why the Trump Family financials are suspect - rich people seem to play by a different set of rules then the not so wealthy. Money AND Power seem to be a dangerous mix.

[Grey Ghost]

Steve, Jim, Lew,

If you don't recognize the ethical differences between using the power of your office as Joe Dirt did as a sitting VP and what Trump did as a private citizen there is no use continuing that conversation.

Joe has been in D.C. for 48yrs and has done NOTHING to better the lives of an average citizen of this country. It's taken him 8 weeks to denounce the violence in our cities then blames it on Trump. There's the leadership this country needs!!!!

He's been in his basement for months scared of the whu han flu like a 3yr old is of the boogie man. Pitiful at best.

A vote for Joe is a vote for proverty, despair, and lawlessness...ask those in the inner cities how that's working out for them.

I'm done with ya

[jwsamuel]

Originally Posted by Grey Ghost

I'm done with ya

Is that supposed to disappoint us?

[Lew Silverman]

Originally Posted by Grey Ghost

If you don't recognize the ethical differences between using the power of your office as Joe Dirt did as a sitting VP and what Trump did as a private citizen there is no use continuing that conversation.

OK, so what YOU'RE representing here is that they're BOTH crooks, but YOUR guy is less of a crook than the other guy.


Fine - show me the proof that Joe Biden engaged in any questionable conduct while serving as a government representative investigating corruption in Ukraine. (Remember now, Russian conspiracy theories, sourced from Ukrainian oligarchs and pushed by Fox "News" hosts don't count as "proof"). On the other hand, there is ample sworn testimony and reams of court documents to prove my case. "Unindicted Co-conspirator #1" ring any bells? And that conduct continued AFTER January 2017 (which is/was the reason he was impeached).


Take your time!

[John Kissel]

Well, for starters,how about"say it ain't so joe"bragging about the loan guarantee to Ukraine. Hey, there's videos of him opening his pie hole about that.

[Mark Yacavone]

Originally Posted by Lew Silverman

OK, so what YOU'RE representing here is that they're BOTH crooks, but YOUR guy is less of a crook than the other guy.


Fine - show me the proof that Joe Biden engaged in any questionable conduct while serving as a government representative investigating corruption in Ukraine. (Remember now, Russian conspiracy theories, sourced from Ukrainian oligarchs and pushed by Fox "News" hosts don't count as "proof"). On the other hand, there is ample sworn testimony and reams of court documents to prove my case. "Unindicted Co-conspirator #1" ring any bells? And that conduct continued AFTER January 2017 (which is/was the reason he was impeached).


Take your time!

Wow...Sounds like CNN wacko conspiracy 24/7 "news"


The reason there were impeachment hearings is this :
NY putz Gerry Nadler
Dingbat Pelosi
Alien Shiffless
All three with terminal cases on TDS

Remember Mueller? 2 years WASTE of taxpayers money.

Give it up, Lew
New York liberalism is so, so 60's...Over ..It failed !