Best Pontiac Powered Super Stockers - Page 23

oldskool · 01-19-2020, 12:14 AM

2014 contd.

@ LOS 6-5, Leo was #10, @ -.842.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2014#indextop

At the Mile-High Nats, Carroll was #1 @ -.863.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2014#indextop

@ LOS 1-4, Vic Santos was #1 @ - 1.087, and got a #3 finish.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2014#indextop

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2014#indextop

@ LOS 7-4, Robert was #6 @ -.888. Leo was #15 @ -.751.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2014#indextop

Leo got a 3rd place finish, & Robert made the 4th round.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2014#indextop

@ LOS 3-4, I'll mention 2 names that were in #56 & #66 positions. They are Johnny Duncan & Bill Eadelis.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2014#indextop

Johnny made it to round 3, & Bill to E-2.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2014#indextop

At the Sonoma Nats, Robert was #3 @ -.887, & made it to round 4.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2014#indextop

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2014#indextop

@ LOS 5-4, Carroll was #9 @ -.687.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2014#indextop

At the Lucas Oil Nats, Greg Meyer was #6 @ -.861.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2014#indextop

@ LOS 5-5, Carroll was #7 @ -.750. Robert was #9 @ -.740.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2014#indextop

@ LOS 1-7, Peter was #33, & got RU.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2014#indextop

@ LOS 5-6, Carroll was #9 @ -.974, and made it to the semi.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2014#indextop

At the Northern Sports Nats, Bill Rink was #27 @ -.852.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2014#indextop

@ LOS 7-5, Carroll was #2 @ -.882. Leo was #6.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2014#indextop

Carroll made the semi.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2014#indextop

At the Vegas Sports Nats, Leo was #11 @ -.780. Peter was #20.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2014#indextop

At the Toyota Nats, Don K. was #18 @ -.943. Carroll was #33 @ -.874. Leo was #43. Peter was #47. Keri was #79.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2014#indextop

@ LOS 7-7, Don K. was #9 @ -.990. Carroll was #18 @ -.911. Peter was #30 @ -.841. Leo was #61. Art was #71. Keri was #78.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2014#indextop

At the Pomona Finals, Leo was #35 @ -.753. Peter was #41, Art was #53, Keri was #57.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2014#indextop

oldskool · 01-19-2020, 03:57 AM

So, from the results I've seen, here is a list, in no particular order, of the drivers of the quickest V8 Pontiac powered Super Stock cars of 2014. Some run low 9's. Some run 10's. The slower cars have run well against their index.

(1) Don Kennedy

(2) Robert Cruzen

(3) Leo Glasbrenner

(4) Peter Biondo

(5) Vic Santos

(6) Greg Meyer

(7) Carroll Warling

[8) Bill Rink

(9) Keri Angeles Pari.

(10) J.B. Clegg

I suppose, as of today, the last 2 names are the only ones on this list associated with 9 sec non-GT Pontiacs. Keri has run the '69 RAIV Bird well into the 9's. And, as we'll see from results from later years, J.B. has driven both a '73 & '74 SD455 Bird well into the 9's.

Because there are several Pontiac Stockers that have run real low 10's, it shouldn't be big problem, at all, to get those cars into the 9's, if taking advantage of the SS rules. I suppose there just hasn't been anybody intersted in doing that, yet. I'd love to see some D-port head, non-GT Pontiacs into the 9's. There are several Pontiac guys around nowadays, who could pull it off. All that's needed is somebody with the money, who wants to do it. Just guessing that several Pontiac guys would be happy to help with such a project. So, somebody do it, already ! If I win one of the BIG lotteries, I'll put up the money for the build, myself.

I realize that all these numbers mean very little, to nothing, to most non-Pontiac folks, since there are other brands that will run quicker, in almost any class a Pontiac can run in. But, because Pontiacs make up such a very small percentage of SS cars, to me, that makes it real special when I see a Pontiac that gets a class win over other brands, or sets a nat record in classes dominated by Chevy, or other brands.

I suppose it's part minority brand pride, and part just because I've always loved Pontiacs.

oldskool · 01-19-2020, 06:20 AM

2015

At the Winter Nats, Peter is #22. Keri & Art are on the list.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2015#indextop

At the Carquest Nats, Don K. was #11 & Peter was #12.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2015#indextop

@ LOS 7-1, Don K. was #6 @ -.851.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2015#indextop

At the Summit Nats, Don K. was #4 @ -.944. Peter & Leo are on the list.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2015#indextop

@ LOS 7-2, Don K. was #1 @ -.990. Leo & Keri were on the list.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2015#indextop

At the Spring Nats, J.B. Clegg ran a 9.917 in his SD455 powered '74 stick Bird.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2015#indextop

@ LOS 5-1, Carroll was #5 @ -.872.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2015#indextop

At the Kansas Nats, Bill Rink was #4 @ - 1.032.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2015#indextop

@ LOS 7-3, Leo was #14 @ -.709.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2015#indextop

At Fontana, Leo was #21 & Keri was #29.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2015#indextop

At Englishtown, I think Sam Biondo was driving the Hatari Bird. #19 @ -.817.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2015#indextop

@ LOS 3-3, Greg Meyer was #13 @ -.863. Bill Rink was #32.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2015#indextop

At the New England Nats, Vic Santos was #1 @ -.996.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2015#indextop

@ LOS 4-2, Robert Cruzen was #1, @ -.944.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2015#indextop

@ LOS 5-3, Carroll was #1 @ - 1.052. Scott Burton also got his GT/GA '91 Bird going. He was #7 @ -.728.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2015#indextop

@ LOS 1-3, Vic Santos was #2 @ - 1.010.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2015#indextop

@ LOS 6-3, Carrol was #1 @ -.987, and got a 3rd place finish.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2015#indextop

That takes us thru June.

oldskool · 01-19-2020, 08:03 AM

2015 contd.

At Norwalk, Bill Rink was #24 @ -.761.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2015#indextop

At the Route 66 Nats, Greg Meyer was #17 @ -.829. Bill Rink was #18 @ -.823.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2015#indextop

At the Mile-High Nats, Carroll was #1 @ - 1.017. Brad was driving the Burton GT Bird. #11.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2015#indextop

@ LOS 1-4, Vic Santos was #3 @ -.987.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2015#indextop

@ LOS 3-5, Greg Meyer was #14 @ -.847. Mike Morgan was then running what I assume is the former Sal Piacentini '77 Bird. #16 @ -.845.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2015#indextop

@ LOS 5-4, Bill Rink was #1 @ - 1.042. carroll was #6 @ -.878.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2015#indextop

@ LOS 1-6, Sam Biondo was #23 @ -.785. John Agneta was #32 @ -.718, in what I was told was Johnny Duncan's car.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2015#indextop

At the Summit Nats, Greg Meyer was #3 @ -.969. Bill Rink was #12 @ -.823.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2015#indextop

@ LOS 5-6, Bill Rink was #6 @ -.974. Carroll was #8 @ -.950.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2015#indextop

@ LOS 7-5, Carroll was #2 @ -.965. Brad Burton was #11 @ -.743.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2015#indextop

@ LOS 7-6, Carroll was #1 @ -.970. Brad was lower on the list.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2015#indextop

@ LOS 4-6, Robert Cruzen was #4 @ -.898.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2015#indextop

At the Toyota Nats, Robert Cruzen was #5 @ - 1.122. brad & Keri were lower on the list.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2015#indextop

@ LOS 7-7, Robert was #25 @ -.898. Brad was #26 @ -.885. Leo was #36 @ -.844. Keri was also on the list.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2015#indextop

At the Pomona Finals, Robert was #5 @ - 1.009. Leo, Art, & Keri are lower on the list.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2015#indextop

That wraps up 2015. Still several quick Pontiacs out there. Gotta be a good bracket racer, nowadays, to win Stock & SS races, because there are just not that many same class, heads-up races. Gotta cut consistently good lights & run consistent ET's. But, I don't have to tell you guys that.

I like to check out the RT's of the guys who consistently make it to the final rounds. Can't often win a round, with a slow light, unless the other guy really messes up. But, the dial-your-own deal is what keeps most guys racing Stock/SS/brackets. If the quickest car always won, only the very richest racers would win. They'd buy the best parts & hire the best people, to produce the quickest car. I reckin that's the basic difference between Stock/SS and the Pro classes. I've heard lots of guys say how much they don't like breakout racing. They seem to feel macho when they say they only do heads-up racing. Problem with that is that MOST of 'em don't have enuff money to build a winning heads-up car. Just thinkin out loud. Please forgive.

oldskool · 01-19-2020, 04:45 PM

2016

At the Winter Nats, Leo was #26 @ -.781. Brad Burton was #37, Art was #51. Keri was #53.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop

At the Carquest Nats, Leo was #25 @ -.760. Don K. was #33. Brad was #38.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop

@ LOS 4-1, J.B. ripped off a 9.739 in his SD455 stick Bird, to get #29 @ -.811.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop

@ LOS 7-1, Don K. was #8 @ -.862. Brad was #20 @ -.773. Leo was #23 @ -.750.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop

@ LOS 7-2, Don K. was #5 @ -.915. Brad was #17 @ -.804. Keri was #44.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop

At the Gators, Sam Biondo was #31 @ -.728.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop

At the Spring Vegas race, Don K, was #11 @ -.943. Brad was #28 @ -.777. Leo was #38. Keri was #53.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop

@ LOS 4-2, J. B. was #24 @ -.797.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop

At the Spring Nats, J.B. was #16 @ -.734.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop

@ LOS 6-1, Brad was #6 @ -.842.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop

@ LOS 3-1, Mike Morgan was #34 @ -.676.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop

At the Kansas Nats, Robert was #1 @ - 1.016. Scott was #23 @ -.760.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop

@ LOS 4-3, J.B. was #19 @ -.773.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop

@ LOS 7-3, Don K. was #5 @ -.849. Leo was #17 @ -.655. Keri was #26.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop

Leo got RU.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop

@ LOS 3-2, Mike Morgan was #27 @ -.814.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop

@ LOS 1-2, Sam Biondo was #13 @ -.818.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop

At the Jegs Sports Nats, Greg Meyer was #12 @ -.962. Scott was #36 @ -.890. Monte Howard was #72 @ -.740.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop

At the New England Nats, Dean Ribeiro was #4 @ - 1.012.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop

@ LOS, Carroll was #7 @ -.914. Scott was #11 @ -.896.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop

@ LOS 3-3, Greg Meyer was #4 @ -.896.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop

@ LOS 5-2, Scott was #2 @ -.994. Carroll was #3 @ -.979.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop

At the Summer Nats, Sam Biondo was #20 @ -.930.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop

That gets us thru June.

oldskool · 01-19-2020, 06:01 PM

2016 contd.

At the Route 66 Nats, Greg Meyer was #5 @ -.915.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop

At the Mile-High Nats, Carroll was #5 @ -.815. Brad was #15.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop

@ LOS 1-4, Vic Santos was #2 @ -.980.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop

@ LOS 7-4, Leo was #8 @ -.823.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop

At the Sonoma Nats, Leo was #15 @ -.720.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop

@ LOS 5-3, Carroll was #12 @ -.796. Robert Cruzen was #18 @ -.715.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop

Robert made the semi, where, for whatever reason, cut a real slow light.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop

LOS 5-4 was a doubleheader race, behind 5-3. Carroll & Robert were #12 & #24 this time.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop

@ LOS 5-5, Greg was #5 @ -.782.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop

At the Lucas Oil Nats, Greg was #2 @ -.878. Bill Rink was #6 @ -.797.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop

@ LOS 1-6, John Agneta was #17 @ -.781.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop

@ LOS 5-6, Carroll was #5 @ -.981. Greg was #11 @ -.906. Robert was #18 @ -.767.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop

@ LOS 6-6, Leo was #5 @ -.758.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop

At the Carolina Nats, Peter was #30 @ -.694, & won the race !

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop

At the Midwest Nats, Mike Morgan was #8 @ -.961. Greg was #20 @ -.872. Bill Rink was #23 @ -.843. Looks like Peter had problems.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop

@ LOS 7-5, Don K. was #3 @ -.854. Carroll was #4 @ -.836. Leo was #17 @ -.596. Looks like Brad had problems in qualifying.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop

LOS 7-6 was the 2nd race of a doubleheader. Carroll was #2 @ -.970. Brad was #14 @ -.769. Don K. was #29.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop

At the Dodge Nats, Sam Biondo was #12 @ -.779.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop

@ LOS 4-6, Robert was #13 @ -.836, & got RU.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop

@ LOS 7-2 make-up race, Leo got RU.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop

@ LOS 7-7, Robert was #8 @ -.933, Don K. was #13 @ -.890. Keri was #29 @ -.811. Scott was #45 @ -.697. Leo was #51 @ -.629. Larry Maxwell was #90.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop

At the Pomona Finals, Brad was #22 @ -.811. Keri was #26 @ -.736. Leo was #31 @ -.706.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop

That's a wrap for 2016. As always, info about additional Pontiac V8 powered wins, not covered here, is welcome. Still several quick Pontiacs. In today's competitive racing, it takes exceptionally good drivers to go rounds & win races. That's why the really good drivers have lots of div & nat event wins, during their racing career.

I think this is the 1st time Larry Maxwell's GT car has turned up on a list I posted. To me, it's a very interesting build. The car is a '68 Bird. Looks like it could be a Stocker. And, it was apparently built to run just a hair under it's index. Has a Pontiac 350 for power. Just presumption on my part, but I assume that the 350 is all a planned part of the build, so that a big-tire set-up won't be needed.

Yes, I know that Bill Rink & Mike Morgan are going quick with Pontiac 350's. But, Larry's 350 build is different. Dan Fletcher has proven, beyond any shadow of doubt, that you can win races without being the quickest car in your class. On almost every list I've seen him on, which is now quite a large number, he is very near the bottom, just a safe distance below his index.

But, who knows, Larry may be planning a quicker set-up, at some point.

oldskool · 01-20-2020, 02:07 AM

2017

At the Winter Nats, Leo was #12 @ -.829. Keri was #21 @ -.741.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop

At the AZ Nats, Don K. was #3 @ -.935. Brad was #17 @ -.838. Leo was #25 @ -.769.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop

@ LOS 7-1, Don K. was #3 @ -.902. Brad was #10 @ -.825. Leo was #29 @ -.675.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop

@ LOS 4-1, J.B. was #21 @ -.812.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop

At the Vegas Spring race. Robert was #1 @ - 1.094. Don K. was #3 @ -.908. Brad was #6 @ -.876. Leo was #18 @ -.733. Keri was #39.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop

Brad made it to the semi.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop

@ LOS 7-2, Robert was #4 @ -.962. Don K. was #6 @ -.925. Brad was #14 @ -.857. Leo was #25 @ -.776. Keri was #49. Larry was #65.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop

At the Spring Nats, J.B. was #20 @ -.671.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop

At the 4-Wide Nats, Peter was #28 @ -.693, & won the race !

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop

@ LOS 4-3, J.B. was #19 @ -.671.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop

@ LOS 6-1, Brad was #6 @ -.825.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop

At Topeka, Robert was #4 @ -.875.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop

@ LOS 7-3 Leo was #14 @ -.660. Keri was #31.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop

@ LOS 1-2, Bill Kennedy was #8 @ -.898. I think he was driving the former Vic Santos car. Think he had his '83 305 Bird for sale, after he bought the Santos Bird, and actually raced both for a short period. But, I'm sure some of ya'll know more about that than I do. Anyhow, John Agneta was #64 at this race.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop

@ LOS 5-1, Robert was #2 @ -.981. Carroll was #3 @ -.902.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop

At Englishtown, Bill Kennedy was #3 @ -.987. Sam Biondo was #13 @ -.883.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop

@ LOS 5-2, Robert was #1 @ -.958. Carroll was #2 @ -.923. Scott was #6 @ -.612.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop

@ LOS 4-4, Robert was #5 @ -.923.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop

That's it thru June. Still a few Pontiacs qualifying at or very near the top of the list.

oldskool · 01-20-2020, 06:33 AM

2017 contd.

@ LOS 1-3, Bill Kennedy was #7 @ -.816.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop

At the Route 66 Nats, Brad was #12 @ -.843. Greg was #14 @ -.833.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop

At the Mile-High Nats, Carroll was #5 @ -.905.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop

@ LOS 7-4, Brad was #12 @ -.842. Leo was #13 @ -.819.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop

Brad got RU.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop

At the Sonoma Nats, Brad was #2 @ -.969.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop

@ LOS 5-3, Carroll was #8 @ -.815. Robert was #20 @ -.715. Jack Good was #38 @ -.510.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop

@ LOS 5-4, Robert was #5 @ -.892. Carroll was #13 @ -.842. Jack Good was #35 @ -.550.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop

@ LOS 3-5, Mike Morgan was #9 @ -.880.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop

@ LOS 3-6, Mike Morgan was #34 @ -.700. Jack Good was #61.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop

At the Northwest Nats, Brad was #3 @ -.893.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop

He got 3rd.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop

@ LOS 5-5, Bill was #3 @ -.978. Greg was #12 @ -.690.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop

At the Lucas Oil Nats, Bill Rink was #2 @ -.954.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop

@ LOS 6-5, Brad was #9 @ -.864.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop

@ LOS 1-6, John Agneta was #27 @ -.702.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop

@ LOS 3-7, Bill Rink was #3 @ - 1.082. Don K. was #23 @ -.912. Jack Good was #61 @ -.700.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop

@ LOS 5-6, Robert was #3 @ -.932. Greg was #6 @ -.918. Carroll was #11 @ -.852. Bill Rink was #19 @ -.788.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop

@ LOS 7-5 Brad was #4 @ -.861.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop

At the Dodge Nats, Sam Biondo was #18 @ -.731.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop

At the Midwest Nats, Mike Morgan was #17 @ -.912. Bill Rink was #21 @ -.895.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop

At the Texas Fall Nats, J.B. was #28 @ -.735.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop

@ LOS 3-4, Greg was #9 @ -.957. And, I think Todd Frantz now had a 428 powered Cobalt. He was #13 @ -.902.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop

At the Toyota Nats, Robert was #7 @ - 1.033. Leo was #33 @ -.780. Carroll was #38 @ -.769. Keri was #53 @ -.655.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop

@ LOS 2-7, Wilbert Thornton was #30 @ -.731.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop

@ LOS 7-7, Brad was #32 @ -.827. Robert was #35 @ -.806. Leo was #46 @ -.719. Larry Maxwell was #80.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop

At the Pomona Finals, Robert was #29 @ -.773. Leo was #40 @ -.638. Keri was number #51, with a 9.956.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop

And Robert ended the season with a big win at Pomona !

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop

oldskool · 01-20-2020, 03:56 PM

2018

For those who don't like lots of race results, bear with me. Only 2 seasons left, and we'll be caught up. I've really enjoyed lookin at all these results. Have learned some things I didn't know.

At the Winter Nats, Leo was #8 @ -.938. Keri was #49. Lindy Lindholm ran his '74 Bird Stocker, in SS at thie race. Was #61. There are lots of today's Stockers that are quick enuff to run under their SS index.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2018#indextop

At the AZ Nats, Leo was #13 @ -.845. Brad was number 42.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2018#indextop

@ LOS 4-1, J.B. was still running 9.70's with the '74 SD455 stick Bird @ #18.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2018#indextop

@ LOS 2-2, Bill Kennedy was #22 @ -.859.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2018#indextop

At the Gators, Bill K. was #16 @ -.973.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2018#indextop

@ LOS 4-2, J.B. had dropped the SD455 Bird into the 9.60's, for #13 @ -.908.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2018#indextop

At the Vegas Spring race, Carroll was #22 @ -.782. Leo was #23 @ -.780. Brad was #34 @ -.691. Larry was #58. Lindy was #59.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2018#indextop

Brad got RU.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2018#indextop

At the Spring Nats, J.B. was #12 @ -.924.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2018#indextop

@ LOS 7-2, Leo was #13 @ -.868. Brad was #25 @ -.751. Larry was #55. Lindy was #57.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2018#indextop

@ LOS 1-1, Bill K, was #8 @ - 1.004. Wilbert Thornton was #34 @ -.775.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2018#indextop

@ LOS 7-3, Leo was #12 @ -.712. Lindy was #40.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2018#indextop

At Topeka, Robert was #3 @ -.878.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2018#indextop

At the Jegs Sports Nats, Don K. was #28 @ -.841. Mike Morgan was #33 @ -.832. Bill Rink was #36 @ -.826.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2018#indextop

@ LOS 1-2, Bill K. was #9 @ -.818.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2018#indextop

At the Route 66 Nats, Greg was #17 @ -.810.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2018#indextop

@ LOS 4-5, Robert was #2 @ -.937.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2018#indextop

@ LOS 5-1, Robert was #2 @ -.875. Scott was #7 @ -.706. Carroll was #9 @ -.629.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2018#indextop

Robert got RU.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2018#indextop

@ LOS, Bill K. was #12 @ -.779. Peter was #32 @ -.554. John Agneta is also on the list.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2018#indextop

That takes us thru June.

For any who don't know, here was Lindy's Stocker Bird, which he ran a few times in SS, & was latter stolen.

oldskool · 01-20-2020, 04:48 PM

2018 contd.

@ LOS 1-4, Bill K. was #6 @ -.845.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2018#indextop

@ LOS 3-3, Greg Meyer was #13 @ -.896. Mike Morgan #22 @ -.857. Don K. was #37 @ -.783. Russ Abrams was #84, in a '91 GT Bird. So, I'll ask again, does anybody know if this car had Pontiac power ?

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2018#indextop

@ LOS 3-4, Greg was #9 @ -.833. Mike Morgan was #10 @ -.828. Bill Rink was #21 @ -.728.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2018#indextop

Greg got RU.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2018#indextop

At the Mile-High Nats, Carroll was #9 @ -.640.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2018#indextop

@ LOS 7-4, Brad was #20 @ -.571. Lindy was #35.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2018#indextop

At the Sonoma Nats, Brad was #18 @ -.704. Lindy was #37

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2018#indextop

@ LOS 5-2, Bill Rink was #6 @ -.937. Robert was #33 @ -.637. Carroll was #40.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2018#indextop

@ LOS 5-3, Bill Rink was #6 @ -.812. Robert was #22 @ -.601. Carroll was #44.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2018#indextop

At the Northwest Nats, Brad was #11 @ -.735.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2018#indextop

@ LOS 1-4 Bill K. was #4 @ -.888. John Agneta was #22 @ -.681.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2018#indextop

Bill got RU.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2018#indextop

@ LOS 5-4, Bill Rink was #7 @ -.811.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2018#indextop

At the Lucas Oil Nats, Bill Rink was #5 @ -.886.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2018#indextop

@ LOS 1-6, Bill K. was #3 @ -.905. John Agneta was #12 @ -.797.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2018#indextop

At the Dodge Nats, Bill K. was #6 @ -.882.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2018#indextop

@ LOS 6-5, Brad was #10 @ -.831.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2018#indextop

At the Midwest Nats, Greg was #11 @ -.824.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2018#indextop

@ LOS 7-5, Scott was #3 @ -.799. Leo was #16 @ -.590. Larry was #25.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2018#indextop

And Leo got the win !

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2018#indextop

@ LOS 7-6, Scott was #5 @ -.782. Leo was #14 @ -.588.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2018#indextop

Scott was RU.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2018#indextop

@ LOS 3-5, Don K. was #25 @ -.870.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2018#indextop

@ LOS 5-5, Bill Rink was #4 @ -.945. Scott was #19 @ -.804. Carroll was #25 @ -.696. Robert was #31 @ -.662.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2018#indextop

@ LOS 5-6, Bill was #5 @ -.863. Scott was #15 @ -.776. Robert was #29 @ -.603. Carroll was #32 @ -.558.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2018#indextop

At the Texas Fall Nats, J.B. was #19 @ -.662.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2018#indextop

@ LOS 3-6, Greg was #8 @ -.914. Bill Rink was #10 @ -.901. Mike Morgan was #17 @ -.837. Todd Frantz was #29 @ -.756.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2018#indextop

At the Fall Vegas race, Robert was #5 @ -.971. Scott was #26 @ -.823. Bill Rink was #33 @ -.779. Carroll was #36 @ -.746. Leo was #48 @ -.659. Keri was #58. Larry was #64.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2018#indextop

@ LOS 7-7, Robert was #2 @ - 1.089. Scott was #24 @ -.859. Bill Rink was #46 @ -.742. Leo was #52 @ -.692. Larry was #74.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2018#indextop

At the Pomona Finals, Brad was #19 @ -.811. Bill Rink was #23 @ -.790. Leo was #31 @ -.726. Keri was #43 @ -.493.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2018#indextop

That's a wrap, for 2018.

Keri drove just one of the Pontiacs that switched over from reg SS, to GT. Since so many reg SS cars have done it, there must be one or more advantages.

01-19-2020, 12:14 AM	#221
oldskool VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: The Land of Bayous, Boudin & Crawfish Posts: 1,668 Likes: 223 Liked 750 Times in 361 Posts	Re: Best Pontiac Powered Super Stockers 2014 contd. @ LOS 6-5, Leo was #10, @ -.842. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2014#indextop At the Mile-High Nats, Carroll was #1 @ -.863. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2014#indextop @ LOS 1-4, Vic Santos was #1 @ - 1.087, and got a #3 finish. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2014#indextop https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2014#indextop @ LOS 7-4, Robert was #6 @ -.888. Leo was #15 @ -.751. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2014#indextop Leo got a 3rd place finish, & Robert made the 4th round. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2014#indextop @ LOS 3-4, I'll mention 2 names that were in #56 & #66 positions. They are Johnny Duncan & Bill Eadelis. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2014#indextop Johnny made it to round 3, & Bill to E-2. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2014#indextop At the Sonoma Nats, Robert was #3 @ -.887, & made it to round 4. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2014#indextop https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2014#indextop @ LOS 5-4, Carroll was #9 @ -.687. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2014#indextop At the Lucas Oil Nats, Greg Meyer was #6 @ -.861. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2014#indextop @ LOS 5-5, Carroll was #7 @ -.750. Robert was #9 @ -.740. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2014#indextop @ LOS 1-7, Peter was #33, & got RU. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2014#indextop @ LOS 5-6, Carroll was #9 @ -.974, and made it to the semi. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2014#indextop At the Northern Sports Nats, Bill Rink was #27 @ -.852. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2014#indextop @ LOS 7-5, Carroll was #2 @ -.882. Leo was #6. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2014#indextop Carroll made the semi. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2014#indextop At the Vegas Sports Nats, Leo was #11 @ -.780. Peter was #20. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2014#indextop At the Toyota Nats, Don K. was #18 @ -.943. Carroll was #33 @ -.874. Leo was #43. Peter was #47. Keri was #79. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2014#indextop @ LOS 7-7, Don K. was #9 @ -.990. Carroll was #18 @ -.911. Peter was #30 @ -.841. Leo was #61. Art was #71. Keri was #78. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2014#indextop At the Pomona Finals, Leo was #35 @ -.753. Peter was #41, Art was #53, Keri was #57. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2014#indextop Last edited by oldskool; 01-19-2020 at 02:57 AM.

01-19-2020, 03:57 AM	#222
oldskool VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: The Land of Bayous, Boudin & Crawfish Posts: 1,668 Likes: 223 Liked 750 Times in 361 Posts	Re: Best Pontiac Powered Super Stockers So, from the results I've seen, here is a list, in no particular order, of the drivers of the quickest V8 Pontiac powered Super Stock cars of 2014. Some run low 9's. Some run 10's. The slower cars have run well against their index. (1) Don Kennedy (2) Robert Cruzen (3) Leo Glasbrenner (4) Peter Biondo (5) Vic Santos (6) Greg Meyer (7) Carroll Warling [8) Bill Rink (9) Keri Angeles Pari. (10) J.B. Clegg I suppose, as of today, the last 2 names are the only ones on this list associated with 9 sec non-GT Pontiacs. Keri has run the '69 RAIV Bird well into the 9's. And, as we'll see from results from later years, J.B. has driven both a '73 & '74 SD455 Bird well into the 9's. Because there are several Pontiac Stockers that have run real low 10's, it shouldn't be big problem, at all, to get those cars into the 9's, if taking advantage of the SS rules. I suppose there just hasn't been anybody intersted in doing that, yet. I'd love to see some D-port head, non-GT Pontiacs into the 9's. There are several Pontiac guys around nowadays, who could pull it off. All that's needed is somebody with the money, who wants to do it. Just guessing that several Pontiac guys would be happy to help with such a project. So, somebody do it, already ! If I win one of the BIG lotteries, I'll put up the money for the build, myself. I realize that all these numbers mean very little, to nothing, to most non-Pontiac folks, since there are other brands that will run quicker, in almost any class a Pontiac can run in. But, because Pontiacs make up such a very small percentage of SS cars, to me, that makes it real special when I see a Pontiac that gets a class win over other brands, or sets a nat record in classes dominated by Chevy, or other brands. I suppose it's part minority brand pride, and part just because I've always loved Pontiacs. Last edited by oldskool; 01-19-2020 at 04:12 AM.

01-19-2020, 06:20 AM	#223
oldskool VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: The Land of Bayous, Boudin & Crawfish Posts: 1,668 Likes: 223 Liked 750 Times in 361 Posts	Re: Best Pontiac Powered Super Stockers 2015 At the Winter Nats, Peter is #22. Keri & Art are on the list. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2015#indextop At the Carquest Nats, Don K. was #11 & Peter was #12. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2015#indextop @ LOS 7-1, Don K. was #6 @ -.851. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2015#indextop At the Summit Nats, Don K. was #4 @ -.944. Peter & Leo are on the list. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2015#indextop @ LOS 7-2, Don K. was #1 @ -.990. Leo & Keri were on the list. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2015#indextop At the Spring Nats, J.B. Clegg ran a 9.917 in his SD455 powered '74 stick Bird. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2015#indextop @ LOS 5-1, Carroll was #5 @ -.872. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2015#indextop At the Kansas Nats, Bill Rink was #4 @ - 1.032. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2015#indextop @ LOS 7-3, Leo was #14 @ -.709. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2015#indextop At Fontana, Leo was #21 & Keri was #29. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2015#indextop At Englishtown, I think Sam Biondo was driving the Hatari Bird. #19 @ -.817. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2015#indextop @ LOS 3-3, Greg Meyer was #13 @ -.863. Bill Rink was #32. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2015#indextop At the New England Nats, Vic Santos was #1 @ -.996. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2015#indextop @ LOS 4-2, Robert Cruzen was #1, @ -.944. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2015#indextop @ LOS 5-3, Carroll was #1 @ - 1.052. Scott Burton also got his GT/GA '91 Bird going. He was #7 @ -.728. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2015#indextop @ LOS 1-3, Vic Santos was #2 @ - 1.010. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2015#indextop @ LOS 6-3, Carrol was #1 @ -.987, and got a 3rd place finish. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2015#indextop That takes us thru June. Attached Thumbnails Last edited by oldskool; 01-19-2020 at 07:49 AM.

01-19-2020, 08:03 AM	#224
oldskool VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: The Land of Bayous, Boudin & Crawfish Posts: 1,668 Likes: 223 Liked 750 Times in 361 Posts	Re: Best Pontiac Powered Super Stockers 2015 contd. At Norwalk, Bill Rink was #24 @ -.761. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2015#indextop At the Route 66 Nats, Greg Meyer was #17 @ -.829. Bill Rink was #18 @ -.823. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2015#indextop At the Mile-High Nats, Carroll was #1 @ - 1.017. Brad was driving the Burton GT Bird. #11. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2015#indextop @ LOS 1-4, Vic Santos was #3 @ -.987. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2015#indextop @ LOS 3-5, Greg Meyer was #14 @ -.847. Mike Morgan was then running what I assume is the former Sal Piacentini '77 Bird. #16 @ -.845. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2015#indextop @ LOS 5-4, Bill Rink was #1 @ - 1.042. carroll was #6 @ -.878. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2015#indextop @ LOS 1-6, Sam Biondo was #23 @ -.785. John Agneta was #32 @ -.718, in what I was told was Johnny Duncan's car. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2015#indextop At the Summit Nats, Greg Meyer was #3 @ -.969. Bill Rink was #12 @ -.823. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2015#indextop @ LOS 5-6, Bill Rink was #6 @ -.974. Carroll was #8 @ -.950. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2015#indextop @ LOS 7-5, Carroll was #2 @ -.965. Brad Burton was #11 @ -.743. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2015#indextop @ LOS 7-6, Carroll was #1 @ -.970. Brad was lower on the list. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2015#indextop @ LOS 4-6, Robert Cruzen was #4 @ -.898. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2015#indextop At the Toyota Nats, Robert Cruzen was #5 @ - 1.122. brad & Keri were lower on the list. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2015#indextop @ LOS 7-7, Robert was #25 @ -.898. Brad was #26 @ -.885. Leo was #36 @ -.844. Keri was also on the list. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2015#indextop At the Pomona Finals, Robert was #5 @ - 1.009. Leo, Art, & Keri are lower on the list. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2015#indextop That wraps up 2015. Still several quick Pontiacs out there. Gotta be a good bracket racer, nowadays, to win Stock & SS races, because there are just not that many same class, heads-up races. Gotta cut consistently good lights & run consistent ET's. But, I don't have to tell you guys that. I like to check out the RT's of the guys who consistently make it to the final rounds. Can't often win a round, with a slow light, unless the other guy really messes up. But, the dial-your-own deal is what keeps most guys racing Stock/SS/brackets. If the quickest car always won, only the very richest racers would win. They'd buy the best parts & hire the best people, to produce the quickest car. I reckin that's the basic difference between Stock/SS and the Pro classes. I've heard lots of guys say how much they don't like breakout racing. They seem to feel macho when they say they only do heads-up racing. Problem with that is that MOST of 'em don't have enuff money to build a winning heads-up car. Just thinkin out loud. Please forgive. Last edited by oldskool; 01-19-2020 at 10:25 AM.

01-19-2020, 04:45 PM	#225
oldskool VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: The Land of Bayous, Boudin & Crawfish Posts: 1,668 Likes: 223 Liked 750 Times in 361 Posts	Re: Best Pontiac Powered Super Stockers 2016 At the Winter Nats, Leo was #26 @ -.781. Brad Burton was #37, Art was #51. Keri was #53. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop At the Carquest Nats, Leo was #25 @ -.760. Don K. was #33. Brad was #38. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop @ LOS 4-1, J.B. ripped off a 9.739 in his SD455 stick Bird, to get #29 @ -.811. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop @ LOS 7-1, Don K. was #8 @ -.862. Brad was #20 @ -.773. Leo was #23 @ -.750. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop @ LOS 7-2, Don K. was #5 @ -.915. Brad was #17 @ -.804. Keri was #44. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop At the Gators, Sam Biondo was #31 @ -.728. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop At the Spring Vegas race, Don K, was #11 @ -.943. Brad was #28 @ -.777. Leo was #38. Keri was #53. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop @ LOS 4-2, J. B. was #24 @ -.797. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop At the Spring Nats, J.B. was #16 @ -.734. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop @ LOS 6-1, Brad was #6 @ -.842. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop @ LOS 3-1, Mike Morgan was #34 @ -.676. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop At the Kansas Nats, Robert was #1 @ - 1.016. Scott was #23 @ -.760. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop @ LOS 4-3, J.B. was #19 @ -.773. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop @ LOS 7-3, Don K. was #5 @ -.849. Leo was #17 @ -.655. Keri was #26. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop Leo got RU. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop @ LOS 3-2, Mike Morgan was #27 @ -.814. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop @ LOS 1-2, Sam Biondo was #13 @ -.818. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop At the Jegs Sports Nats, Greg Meyer was #12 @ -.962. Scott was #36 @ -.890. Monte Howard was #72 @ -.740. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop At the New England Nats, Dean Ribeiro was #4 @ - 1.012. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop @ LOS, Carroll was #7 @ -.914. Scott was #11 @ -.896. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop @ LOS 3-3, Greg Meyer was #4 @ -.896. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop @ LOS 5-2, Scott was #2 @ -.994. Carroll was #3 @ -.979. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop At the Summer Nats, Sam Biondo was #20 @ -.930. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop That gets us thru June. Last edited by oldskool; 01-19-2020 at 06:07 PM.

01-19-2020, 06:01 PM	#226
oldskool VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: The Land of Bayous, Boudin & Crawfish Posts: 1,668 Likes: 223 Liked 750 Times in 361 Posts	Re: Best Pontiac Powered Super Stockers 2016 contd. At the Route 66 Nats, Greg Meyer was #5 @ -.915. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop At the Mile-High Nats, Carroll was #5 @ -.815. Brad was #15. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop @ LOS 1-4, Vic Santos was #2 @ -.980. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop @ LOS 7-4, Leo was #8 @ -.823. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop At the Sonoma Nats, Leo was #15 @ -.720. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop @ LOS 5-3, Carroll was #12 @ -.796. Robert Cruzen was #18 @ -.715. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop Robert made the semi, where, for whatever reason, cut a real slow light. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop LOS 5-4 was a doubleheader race, behind 5-3. Carroll & Robert were #12 & #24 this time. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop @ LOS 5-5, Greg was #5 @ -.782. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop At the Lucas Oil Nats, Greg was #2 @ -.878. Bill Rink was #6 @ -.797. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop @ LOS 1-6, John Agneta was #17 @ -.781. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop @ LOS 5-6, Carroll was #5 @ -.981. Greg was #11 @ -.906. Robert was #18 @ -.767. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop @ LOS 6-6, Leo was #5 @ -.758. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop At the Carolina Nats, Peter was #30 @ -.694, & won the race ! https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop At the Midwest Nats, Mike Morgan was #8 @ -.961. Greg was #20 @ -.872. Bill Rink was #23 @ -.843. Looks like Peter had problems. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop @ LOS 7-5, Don K. was #3 @ -.854. Carroll was #4 @ -.836. Leo was #17 @ -.596. Looks like Brad had problems in qualifying. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop LOS 7-6 was the 2nd race of a doubleheader. Carroll was #2 @ -.970. Brad was #14 @ -.769. Don K. was #29. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop At the Dodge Nats, Sam Biondo was #12 @ -.779. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop @ LOS 4-6, Robert was #13 @ -.836, & got RU. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop @ LOS 7-2 make-up race, Leo got RU. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop @ LOS 7-7, Robert was #8 @ -.933, Don K. was #13 @ -.890. Keri was #29 @ -.811. Scott was #45 @ -.697. Leo was #51 @ -.629. Larry Maxwell was #90. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop At the Pomona Finals, Brad was #22 @ -.811. Keri was #26 @ -.736. Leo was #31 @ -.706. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop That's a wrap for 2016. As always, info about additional Pontiac V8 powered wins, not covered here, is welcome. Still several quick Pontiacs. In today's competitive racing, it takes exceptionally good drivers to go rounds & win races. That's why the really good drivers have lots of div & nat event wins, during their racing career. I think this is the 1st time Larry Maxwell's GT car has turned up on a list I posted. To me, it's a very interesting build. The car is a '68 Bird. Looks like it could be a Stocker. And, it was apparently built to run just a hair under it's index. Has a Pontiac 350 for power. Just presumption on my part, but I assume that the 350 is all a planned part of the build, so that a big-tire set-up won't be needed. Yes, I know that Bill Rink & Mike Morgan are going quick with Pontiac 350's. But, Larry's 350 build is different. Dan Fletcher has proven, beyond any shadow of doubt, that you can win races without being the quickest car in your class. On almost every list I've seen him on, which is now quite a large number, he is very near the bottom, just a safe distance below his index. But, who knows, Larry may be planning a quicker set-up, at some point. Attached Thumbnails Last edited by oldskool; 01-20-2020 at 12:05 AM.

01-20-2020, 02:07 AM	#227
oldskool VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: The Land of Bayous, Boudin & Crawfish Posts: 1,668 Likes: 223 Liked 750 Times in 361 Posts	Re: Best Pontiac Powered Super Stockers 2017 At the Winter Nats, Leo was #12 @ -.829. Keri was #21 @ -.741. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop At the AZ Nats, Don K. was #3 @ -.935. Brad was #17 @ -.838. Leo was #25 @ -.769. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop @ LOS 7-1, Don K. was #3 @ -.902. Brad was #10 @ -.825. Leo was #29 @ -.675. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop @ LOS 4-1, J.B. was #21 @ -.812. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop At the Vegas Spring race. Robert was #1 @ - 1.094. Don K. was #3 @ -.908. Brad was #6 @ -.876. Leo was #18 @ -.733. Keri was #39. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop Brad made it to the semi. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop @ LOS 7-2, Robert was #4 @ -.962. Don K. was #6 @ -.925. Brad was #14 @ -.857. Leo was #25 @ -.776. Keri was #49. Larry was #65. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop At the Spring Nats, J.B. was #20 @ -.671. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop At the 4-Wide Nats, Peter was #28 @ -.693, & won the race ! https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop @ LOS 4-3, J.B. was #19 @ -.671. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop @ LOS 6-1, Brad was #6 @ -.825. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop At Topeka, Robert was #4 @ -.875. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop @ LOS 7-3 Leo was #14 @ -.660. Keri was #31. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop @ LOS 1-2, Bill Kennedy was #8 @ -.898. I think he was driving the former Vic Santos car. Think he had his '83 305 Bird for sale, after he bought the Santos Bird, and actually raced both for a short period. But, I'm sure some of ya'll know more about that than I do. Anyhow, John Agneta was #64 at this race. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop @ LOS 5-1, Robert was #2 @ -.981. Carroll was #3 @ -.902. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop At Englishtown, Bill Kennedy was #3 @ -.987. Sam Biondo was #13 @ -.883. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop @ LOS 5-2, Robert was #1 @ -.958. Carroll was #2 @ -.923. Scott was #6 @ -.612. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop @ LOS 4-4, Robert was #5 @ -.923. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop That's it thru June. Still a few Pontiacs qualifying at or very near the top of the list. Last edited by oldskool; 01-20-2020 at 04:41 AM.

01-20-2020, 06:33 AM	#228
oldskool VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: The Land of Bayous, Boudin & Crawfish Posts: 1,668 Likes: 223 Liked 750 Times in 361 Posts	Re: Best Pontiac Powered Super Stockers 2017 contd. @ LOS 1-3, Bill Kennedy was #7 @ -.816. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop At the Route 66 Nats, Brad was #12 @ -.843. Greg was #14 @ -.833. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop At the Mile-High Nats, Carroll was #5 @ -.905. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop @ LOS 7-4, Brad was #12 @ -.842. Leo was #13 @ -.819. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop Brad got RU. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop At the Sonoma Nats, Brad was #2 @ -.969. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop @ LOS 5-3, Carroll was #8 @ -.815. Robert was #20 @ -.715. Jack Good was #38 @ -.510. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop @ LOS 5-4, Robert was #5 @ -.892. Carroll was #13 @ -.842. Jack Good was #35 @ -.550. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop @ LOS 3-5, Mike Morgan was #9 @ -.880. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop @ LOS 3-6, Mike Morgan was #34 @ -.700. Jack Good was #61. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop At the Northwest Nats, Brad was #3 @ -.893. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop He got 3rd. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop @ LOS 5-5, Bill was #3 @ -.978. Greg was #12 @ -.690. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop At the Lucas Oil Nats, Bill Rink was #2 @ -.954. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop @ LOS 6-5, Brad was #9 @ -.864. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop @ LOS 1-6, John Agneta was #27 @ -.702. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop @ LOS 3-7, Bill Rink was #3 @ - 1.082. Don K. was #23 @ -.912. Jack Good was #61 @ -.700. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop @ LOS 5-6, Robert was #3 @ -.932. Greg was #6 @ -.918. Carroll was #11 @ -.852. Bill Rink was #19 @ -.788. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop @ LOS 7-5 Brad was #4 @ -.861. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop At the Dodge Nats, Sam Biondo was #18 @ -.731. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop At the Midwest Nats, Mike Morgan was #17 @ -.912. Bill Rink was #21 @ -.895. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop At the Texas Fall Nats, J.B. was #28 @ -.735. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop @ LOS 3-4, Greg was #9 @ -.957. And, I think Todd Frantz now had a 428 powered Cobalt. He was #13 @ -.902. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop At the Toyota Nats, Robert was #7 @ - 1.033. Leo was #33 @ -.780. Carroll was #38 @ -.769. Keri was #53 @ -.655. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop @ LOS 2-7, Wilbert Thornton was #30 @ -.731. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop @ LOS 7-7, Brad was #32 @ -.827. Robert was #35 @ -.806. Leo was #46 @ -.719. Larry Maxwell was #80. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop At the Pomona Finals, Robert was #29 @ -.773. Leo was #40 @ -.638. Keri was number #51, with a 9.956. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop And Robert ended the season with a big win at Pomona ! https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop Attached Thumbnails Last edited by oldskool; 01-20-2020 at 02:43 PM.

01-20-2020, 03:56 PM	#229
oldskool VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: The Land of Bayous, Boudin & Crawfish Posts: 1,668 Likes: 223 Liked 750 Times in 361 Posts	Re: Best Pontiac Powered Super Stockers 2018 For those who don't like lots of race results, bear with me. Only 2 seasons left, and we'll be caught up. I've really enjoyed lookin at all these results. Have learned some things I didn't know. At the Winter Nats, Leo was #8 @ -.938. Keri was #49. Lindy Lindholm ran his '74 Bird Stocker, in SS at thie race. Was #61. There are lots of today's Stockers that are quick enuff to run under their SS index. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2018#indextop At the AZ Nats, Leo was #13 @ -.845. Brad was number 42. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2018#indextop @ LOS 4-1, J.B. was still running 9.70's with the '74 SD455 stick Bird @ #18. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2018#indextop @ LOS 2-2, Bill Kennedy was #22 @ -.859. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2018#indextop At the Gators, Bill K. was #16 @ -.973. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2018#indextop @ LOS 4-2, J.B. had dropped the SD455 Bird into the 9.60's, for #13 @ -.908. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2018#indextop At the Vegas Spring race, Carroll was #22 @ -.782. Leo was #23 @ -.780. Brad was #34 @ -.691. Larry was #58. Lindy was #59. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2018#indextop Brad got RU. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2018#indextop At the Spring Nats, J.B. was #12 @ -.924. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2018#indextop @ LOS 7-2, Leo was #13 @ -.868. Brad was #25 @ -.751. Larry was #55. Lindy was #57. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2018#indextop @ LOS 1-1, Bill K, was #8 @ - 1.004. Wilbert Thornton was #34 @ -.775. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2018#indextop @ LOS 7-3, Leo was #12 @ -.712. Lindy was #40. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2018#indextop At Topeka, Robert was #3 @ -.878. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2018#indextop At the Jegs Sports Nats, Don K. was #28 @ -.841. Mike Morgan was #33 @ -.832. Bill Rink was #36 @ -.826. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2018#indextop @ LOS 1-2, Bill K. was #9 @ -.818. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2018#indextop At the Route 66 Nats, Greg was #17 @ -.810. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2018#indextop @ LOS 4-5, Robert was #2 @ -.937. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2018#indextop @ LOS 5-1, Robert was #2 @ -.875. Scott was #7 @ -.706. Carroll was #9 @ -.629. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2018#indextop Robert got RU. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2018#indextop @ LOS, Bill K. was #12 @ -.779. Peter was #32 @ -.554. John Agneta is also on the list. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2018#indextop That takes us thru June. For any who don't know, here was Lindy's Stocker Bird, which he ran a few times in SS, & was latter stolen. Attached Thumbnails Last edited by oldskool; 01-20-2020 at 04:47 PM.

01-20-2020, 04:48 PM	#230
oldskool VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: The Land of Bayous, Boudin & Crawfish Posts: 1,668 Likes: 223 Liked 750 Times in 361 Posts	Re: Best Pontiac Powered Super Stockers 2018 contd. @ LOS 1-4, Bill K. was #6 @ -.845. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2018#indextop @ LOS 3-3, Greg Meyer was #13 @ -.896. Mike Morgan #22 @ -.857. Don K. was #37 @ -.783. Russ Abrams was #84, in a '91 GT Bird. So, I'll ask again, does anybody know if this car had Pontiac power ? https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2018#indextop @ LOS 3-4, Greg was #9 @ -.833. Mike Morgan was #10 @ -.828. Bill Rink was #21 @ -.728. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2018#indextop Greg got RU. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2018#indextop At the Mile-High Nats, Carroll was #9 @ -.640. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2018#indextop @ LOS 7-4, Brad was #20 @ -.571. Lindy was #35. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2018#indextop At the Sonoma Nats, Brad was #18 @ -.704. Lindy was #37 https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2018#indextop @ LOS 5-2, Bill Rink was #6 @ -.937. Robert was #33 @ -.637. Carroll was #40. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2018#indextop @ LOS 5-3, Bill Rink was #6 @ -.812. Robert was #22 @ -.601. Carroll was #44. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2018#indextop At the Northwest Nats, Brad was #11 @ -.735. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2018#indextop @ LOS 1-4 Bill K. was #4 @ -.888. John Agneta was #22 @ -.681. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2018#indextop Bill got RU. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2018#indextop @ LOS 5-4, Bill Rink was #7 @ -.811. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2018#indextop At the Lucas Oil Nats, Bill Rink was #5 @ -.886. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2018#indextop @ LOS 1-6, Bill K. was #3 @ -.905. John Agneta was #12 @ -.797. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2018#indextop At the Dodge Nats, Bill K. was #6 @ -.882. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2018#indextop @ LOS 6-5, Brad was #10 @ -.831. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2018#indextop At the Midwest Nats, Greg was #11 @ -.824. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2018#indextop @ LOS 7-5, Scott was #3 @ -.799. Leo was #16 @ -.590. Larry was #25. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2018#indextop And Leo got the win ! https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2018#indextop @ LOS 7-6, Scott was #5 @ -.782. Leo was #14 @ -.588. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2018#indextop Scott was RU. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2018#indextop @ LOS 3-5, Don K. was #25 @ -.870. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2018#indextop @ LOS 5-5, Bill Rink was #4 @ -.945. Scott was #19 @ -.804. Carroll was #25 @ -.696. Robert was #31 @ -.662. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2018#indextop @ LOS 5-6, Bill was #5 @ -.863. Scott was #15 @ -.776. Robert was #29 @ -.603. Carroll was #32 @ -.558. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2018#indextop At the Texas Fall Nats, J.B. was #19 @ -.662. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2018#indextop @ LOS 3-6, Greg was #8 @ -.914. Bill Rink was #10 @ -.901. Mike Morgan was #17 @ -.837. Todd Frantz was #29 @ -.756. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2018#indextop At the Fall Vegas race, Robert was #5 @ -.971. Scott was #26 @ -.823. Bill Rink was #33 @ -.779. Carroll was #36 @ -.746. Leo was #48 @ -.659. Keri was #58. Larry was #64. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2018#indextop @ LOS 7-7, Robert was #2 @ - 1.089. Scott was #24 @ -.859. Bill Rink was #46 @ -.742. Leo was #52 @ -.692. Larry was #74. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2018#indextop At the Pomona Finals, Brad was #19 @ -.811. Bill Rink was #23 @ -.790. Leo was #31 @ -.726. Keri was #43 @ -.493. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2018#indextop That's a wrap, for 2018. Keri drove just one of the Pontiacs that switched over from reg SS, to GT. Since so many reg SS cars have done it, there must be one or more advantages. Attached Thumbnails Last edited by oldskool; 01-20-2020 at 09:40 PM.