4 speed set up in a 2013 Challenger

GTS340 · 06-13-2022, 08:39 PM

I'm building a 2013 Dodge Challenger with a 5.7 non drag pak. Been doing it for sometime now. Since I've been waiting for parts and waiting some more. I decided to run a Manual transmission. I'm looking for some help on the clutch set up. Of course pictures would be great. I was wondering if a manual linkage set up is being fabricated or using factory hydraulic. New world for myself to adventure in..

Paul Haszlauer

GTS340 · 06-13-2022, 11:03 PM

Here are a couple pictures of the project.

GTS340 · 06-14-2022, 12:07 AM

couple more

GTS340 · 06-14-2022, 10:22 AM

project photos

GTS340 · 06-14-2022, 11:19 AM

Though this is my crazy dream. First thing first. I couldn't have even gotten this far without the help of my very dear close friend Paul Wong. Paul has made a boat load of phone calls and spent half the cost. Also our good friend Mike Blackstone has been building the engine. Numerous delays that Mike has had to deal with. Don Little did the heads for this project after waiting for ever for parts. Don has always been good to me.
Delays for parts has been frustrating. Two years ago I needed window modules. Was told I would be taken care of. Yeah right!. Pistons took the longest in the beginning. I never went through the process of getting a piston approved. Thanks to Paul and Mike. Now we are waiting for Holley to complete their order. Been waiting for the main part of the Holley ignition for near a 1/2 year. Valve covers too. Waiting for a camshaft. A lot of waiting for sure. I hope someone can help me on the clutch linkage set up.

Paul Haszlauer

GTS340 · 06-14-2022, 02:36 PM

The more I look Hydraulic is the best anyway. Very old school here. Learning as I go. I guess the next question is there a go to Hydraulic clutch set up that beats the stock set up.

Paul

Mark Yacavone · 06-14-2022, 10:36 PM

Paul, I wouldn't use the hyd. clutch..Too many unknowns .How long since you raced a stick car?
You're going to be using "old school' bell, so why not an earlier fork too?
The pedal should be usable. Just copy the older stuff to get your pivot points and ratios figured out.
Besides header clearance, it seems that you'll be better off with mechanical.

I'm dealing with a factory hydraulic system , only because I have to. I have no starting point for mechanical. :-0

GTS340 · 06-15-2022, 10:30 AM

Thanks Mark, As far as me personally driving a stick. Not since I was very young. I have built all Paul Wong's 4 speed cars though if that throws me a bone. Paul will also be the primary driver but who knows. Actually Paul has all the stick stuff except a flywheel. Maybe once I get the engine in. The old pivot bar deal will become a better vision for me to fabricate.
Then I spent all day yesterday looking for an original clutch pedal for the car. Holy cow parts are just not available anymore. Anyone have a clutch pedal set for a 2009-2014 Challenger?

Paul

340Cuda · 06-15-2022, 11:54 AM

If you have not already, I would check with Cleveland Power and Performance for salvage clutch petal parts.

https://www.clevelandpap.com/

GTS340 · 06-15-2022, 12:08 PM

all the little things

06-13-2022, 08:39 PM	#1
GTS340 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: Las Vegas, Nv Posts: 747 Likes: 183 Liked 1,068 Times in 334 Posts	4 speed set up in a 2013 Challenger I'm building a 2013 Dodge Challenger with a 5.7 non drag pak. Been doing it for sometime now. Since I've been waiting for parts and waiting some more. I decided to run a Manual transmission. I'm looking for some help on the clutch set up. Of course pictures would be great. I was wondering if a manual linkage set up is being fabricated or using factory hydraulic. New world for myself to adventure in.. Paul Haszlauer

06-13-2022, 11:03 PM	#2
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06-14-2022, 12:07 AM	#3
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06-14-2022, 10:22 AM	#4
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06-14-2022, 11:19 AM	#5
GTS340 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: Las Vegas, Nv Posts: 747 Likes: 183 Liked 1,068 Times in 334 Posts	Re: 4 speed set up in a 2013 Challenger Though this is my crazy dream. First thing first. I couldn't have even gotten this far without the help of my very dear close friend Paul Wong. Paul has made a boat load of phone calls and spent half the cost. Also our good friend Mike Blackstone has been building the engine. Numerous delays that Mike has had to deal with. Don Little did the heads for this project after waiting for ever for parts. Don has always been good to me. Delays for parts has been frustrating. Two years ago I needed window modules. Was told I would be taken care of. Yeah right!. Pistons took the longest in the beginning. I never went through the process of getting a piston approved. Thanks to Paul and Mike. Now we are waiting for Holley to complete their order. Been waiting for the main part of the Holley ignition for near a 1/2 year. Valve covers too. Waiting for a camshaft. A lot of waiting for sure. I hope someone can help me on the clutch linkage set up. Paul Haszlauer

06-14-2022, 02:36 PM	#6
GTS340 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: Las Vegas, Nv Posts: 747 Likes: 183 Liked 1,068 Times in 334 Posts	Re: 4 speed set up in a 2013 Challenger The more I look Hydraulic is the best anyway. Very old school here. Learning as I go. I guess the next question is there a go to Hydraulic clutch set up that beats the stock set up. Paul Attached Thumbnails

06-14-2022, 10:36 PM	#7
Mark Yacavone Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Miles From Nowhere Posts: 7,414 Likes: 2,579 Liked 4,447 Times in 1,693 Posts	Re: 4 speed set up in a 2013 Challenger Paul, I wouldn't use the hyd. clutch..Too many unknowns .How long since you raced a stick car? You're going to be using "old school' bell, so why not an earlier fork too? The pedal should be usable. Just copy the older stuff to get your pivot points and ratios figured out. Besides header clearance, it seems that you'll be better off with mechanical. I'm dealing with a factory hydraulic system , only because I have to. I have no starting point for mechanical. :-0 __________________ We are lucky we don't get as much Government as we pay for..... Will Rogers

06-15-2022, 10:30 AM	#8
GTS340 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: Las Vegas, Nv Posts: 747 Likes: 183 Liked 1,068 Times in 334 Posts	Re: 4 speed set up in a 2013 Challenger Thanks Mark, As far as me personally driving a stick. Not since I was very young. I have built all Paul Wong's 4 speed cars though if that throws me a bone. Paul will also be the primary driver but who knows. Actually Paul has all the stick stuff except a flywheel. Maybe once I get the engine in. The old pivot bar deal will become a better vision for me to fabricate. Then I spent all day yesterday looking for an original clutch pedal for the car. Holy cow parts are just not available anymore. Anyone have a clutch pedal set for a 2009-2014 Challenger? Paul

06-15-2022, 11:54 AM	#9
340Cuda VIP Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Tulsa, Oklahoma Posts: 1,567 Likes: 3,154 Liked 677 Times in 290 Posts	Re: 4 speed set up in a 2013 Challenger If you have not already, I would check with Cleveland Power and Performance for salvage clutch petal parts. https://www.clevelandpap.com/

06-15-2022, 12:08 PM	#10
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