HP on Monday?

[J.R. Haddad]

Sam, I don't want you to spend a lot of time waiting for the results of the
teardown. We have all been waiting for years.

J.R.

[Larry Hill]

I like the delicate dance that has to be done in the AHFS to go fast, win Class and do not offend. Joe and Hal are masters of the game.

On the reduction side of the AHFS, NHRA does not follow the rules as written at least that has been my experience sometimes.

[HR9121]

Originally Posted by Larry Hill

I like the delicate dance that has to be done in the AHFS to go fast, win Class and do not offend. Joe and Hal are masters of the game.

On the reduction side of the AHFS, NHRA does not follow the rules as written at least that has been my experience sometimes.

I agree Mr Larry only problem is when you have people with your combo that's not quite so diligent as you are sir it can be a problem if you get my drift. That's what ruined my 350 flat top combo.

[Larry Hill]

We, us and some more folks were trying to get power off a combination and had everything in place until the last race, it was a qualified race. He qualified and raised the average enough to not qualify for a reduction. He came to race and did with no hard feelings. I think he went several rounds at that race and I was a DNQ cause mine would not run fast enough to get in. Sometimes it just does not work out.

After a race that we went fast I got 29 hp in a 22 lbs class on Tuesday. If you do the math it will scare you.

[MadFab_cody]

Originally Posted by Lyn Smith

Most SS and Stock racers are not concerned about the indexes or AHFS. At least not in Div. 3 where only 10% of the registered racers voted for, or against a change.

When and where did this take place? You would think with all the money they have to throw around in year end bonuses that they would hire a decent IT group to keep everything under one roof, rather than several sites with some of the worst user interface I’ve had to deal with..

[Dave Ficacci]

Originally Posted by MadFab_cody

When and where did this take place? You would think with all the money they have to throw around in year end bonuses that they would hire a decent IT group to keep everything under one roof, rather than several sites with some of the worst user interface I?ve had to deal with..

That was going to be my point. It would take them approx 10 minutes of coding to add a Q&A to each racers NHRA Event Reg home page. Upon login you would be prompted to vote via a pop up.

[TILBURG]

Originally Posted by Larry Hill

I like the delicate dance that has to be done in the AHFS to go fast, win Class and do not offend. Joe and Hal are masters of the game.

On the reduction side of the AHFS, NHRA does not follow the rules as written at least that has been my experience sometimes.

MR HILL
So your saying you enjoy running your car under the AHFS? So running you car based off a Average of everyone else's performance is fun? What happens when its 5th round and by
Into the final and your Average is high and your heads up. Maybe im wrong and everyone enjoys this. But they already have a couple classes for this not sure why they need 2 more.Would this type of racing have drawn you into the class when you first started? You have a very fast car i would think you would want to show the reward of your hard work and money spent more often.

[Doug Hoven]

I understand there are racers unhappy with the AHFS. However, no one really proposes a solution other than just "get rid of it." I really don't think that is the answer. Does that mean we just leave every single combination at the current horsepower rating and let them run however fast they want without the threat of "ruining" the combo? Possibly go back to the days before the AHFS, where a combo got a fixed number, say 5hp, at NHRA's discretion, no matter if the car was in a 25lb class or a 5lb class? Lowering the indexes is generally an unpopular idea. I know it would probably never happen, but I think that cars making very fast runs, especially when it is fast enough for an instant hp hit, need to be torn down to verify that the car that is about to "ruin" the combo is, at the very least, legal.

[James Perrone]

Originally Posted by Doug Hoven

I understand there are racers unhappy with the AHFS. However, no one really proposes a solution other than just "get rid of it." I really don't think that is the answer. Does that mean we just leave every single combination at the current horsepower rating and let them run however fast they want without the threat of "ruining" the combo? Possibly go back to the days before the AHFS, where a combo got a fixed number, say 5hp, at NHRA's discretion, no matter if the car was in a 25lb class or a 5lb class? Lowering the indexes is generally an unpopular idea. I know it would probably never happen, but I think that cars making very fast runs, especially when it is fast enough for an instant hp hit, need to be torn down to verify that the car that is about to "ruin" the combo is, at the very least, legal.

That?s what just happened NHRA made a decision
I think the reason why the decision was made this way was that the fuel check wasn?t kosher
There was no fuel check that round
He made the run realized what happened going too fast and then the Fuel came up bad
That sort of like manipulating the AHFS
So NHRA put the hammer down because the fuel check issue was questionable I think
It?s a shame. The car should?ve been tore down
Whether the fuel was bad or not, and everyone would be happier, I guess

[Mike Pearson]

Originally Posted by Doug Hoven

I understand there are racers unhappy with the AHFS. However, no one really proposes a solution other than just "get rid of it." I really don't think that is the answer. Does that mean we just leave every single combination at the current horsepower rating and let them run however fast they want without the threat of "ruining" the combo? Possibly go back to the days before the AHFS, where a combo got a fixed number, say 5hp, at NHRA's discretion, no matter if the car was in a 25lb class or a 5lb class? Lowering the indexes is generally an unpopular idea. I know it would probably never happen, but I think that cars making very fast runs, especially when it is fast enough for an instant hp hit, need to be torn down to verify that the car that is about to "ruin" the combo is, at the very least, legal.

I totally agree with everything in this post. As far as tear down goes I think that is a thing of the past. There is very few tech personnel to do a proper tear down. I guess it could happen for a 1.30 under pass.
There are a lot of different opinions on our style of racing. Some race to be the fastest. Some race to be the farthest under the index. Some race to be the best driver. Some race for fun. Some race for a living. Some have plenty of disposable income. Some have limited budgets. There should be a balance between all of that to keep the sport "healthy". The AHFS is one of those tools to try to keep a balance. As it is formatted now the racers are in control of the destiny. You can choose to run fast if you can find a combo that is under factored and run at the top of the sheet. If you do that then you have to accept the consequence when you get HP. I can tell you that the combo I race cannot reach the trigger for instant HP no matter how much money or hard work is applied. I am a bottom of the sheet qualifier. I have a good car and a decent engine. I strive to be good at driving and dialing to go rounds. I do get crushed in a heads up when that happens but I dont complain. I take the defeat and move on. I am one with a limited budget. I do all my own work on my car, engine, transmission and drive train. Just my $.02