Seat Belts

Doug McCue · 03-27-2014, 07:31 PM

Does the NHRA really need to have seat belts put in a stocker every two years? Could it be changed to a period more in line with how fast they wear out?

Chad Rhodes · 03-27-2014, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Doug McCue

Does the NHRA really need to have seat belts put in a stocker every two years? Could it be changed to a period more in line with how fast they wear out?

My understanding is that the rule is based on the lowest common denominator; i.e. A dragster that is lef outside in the sun and the UV exposure and weather degrades the webbing. Obviously that's the extreme circumstance. I don't agree, but I understand.

older racer · 03-27-2014, 09:04 PM

hi, in general aviation, seat belts are not replaced every two years, they sit out in the sun lots!!! especially open cockpit biplanes!!! when I worked for a dusting outfit, the stearmans were 20 yrs old, same belts that were installed in 1943 still in use in 1960-1970,s. If they deteriat that easily, then need better material/!!!! the two year rule is based off military jet fighters.

Geerhead55 · 03-28-2014, 01:14 AM

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Originally Posted by older racer

hi, in general aviation, seat belts are not replaced every two years, they sit out in the sun lots!!! especially open cockpit biplanes!!! when I worked for a dusting outfit, the stearmans were 20 yrs old, same belts that were installed in 1943 still in use in 1960-1970,s. If they deteriat that easily, then need better material/!!!! the two year rule is based off military jet fighters.

I think the two year rule is only about one thing,,,, MONEY.
We all know our belts aren't worn out after 2 years,, I'm going to recert mine soon, and they look as nice as the day I got them in 2012. The manufacturers were making too good of a product, and therefore weren't selling a lot of belts, so somebody griped to Glendora, and what do you know,,, a 2 year rule goes into effect! I'm sure Glendora makes out very well on this and the manufacturers "show their appreciation" to Glendora for said ruling. My 2 cents.
Danny Durham

HawkBrosMav · 03-28-2014, 02:34 AM

I'm sorry guys.. I know I'm not your typical go to 8-10 races a year Stock/SS guy, but I can guarantee you my belts are worn out after 2-2.5 years.. Deist.. Crow you name I've wore them out.. the rule is in place to take the liability off of the poor tech guy that just let your 10 year old belts pass tech, when you get seriously injured in an accident.. You people complaining that you don't want to replace them every 2 year would be the first ones in line to sue when the belt failed in an accident..

Brad

tommy d · 03-28-2014, 05:07 AM

I got this.

Doug McCue · 03-28-2014, 06:34 AM

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Originally Posted by HawkBrosMav

I'm sorry guys.. I know I'm not your typical go to 8-10 races a year Stock/SS guy, but I can guarantee you my belts are worn out after 2-2.5 years.. Deist.. Crow you name I've wore them out.. the rule is in place to take the liability off of the poor tech guy that just let your 10 year old belts pass tech, when you get seriously injured in an accident.. You people complaining that you don't want to replace them every 2 year would be the first ones in line to sue when the belt failed in an accident..

Brad

And helmets?

ss wannabee · 03-28-2014, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by HawkBrosMav

I'm sorry guys.. I know I'm not your typical go to 8-10 races a year Stock/SS guy, but I can guarantee you my belts are worn out after 2-2.5 years.. Deist.. Crow you name I've wore them out.. the rule is in place to take the liability off of the poor tech guy that just let your 10 year old belts pass tech, when you get seriously injured in an accident.. You people complaining that you don't want to replace them every 2 year would be the first ones in line to sue when the belt failed in an accident..

Brad

x2.....

Bob Mulry · 03-28-2014, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by HawkBrosMav

I'm sorry guys.. I know I'm not your typical go to 8-10 races a year Stock/SS guy, but I can guarantee you my belts are worn out after 2-2.5 years.. Deist.. Crow you name I've wore them out.. the rule is in place to take the liability off of the poor tech guy that just let your 10 year old belts pass tech, when you get seriously injured in an accident.. You people complaining that you don't want to replace them every 2 year would be the first ones in line to sue when the belt failed in an accident..

Brad

Is it truly a “Commitment to Safety”?

When was the last time that you saw an NHRA tech inspector check the seat belt mounting hardware and installation to insure that it complied with NHRA rules?

I believe that the seat belts used in NASCAR have a set procedure for the mounting of the seat belt hardware and routing of the belts and that was the cause of the belt failure. The belt failed, as I remember the news accounts, due to the installation not being in compliance with NASCAR rules and the belt was worn which caused it to fail.

Just having a 2 year rule on seat belt replacement doesn't free NHRA to not inspect and certify that the belts are installed per NHRA guidelines.

Correct installation and proper quality control of the seat belts is what turns them into safety equipment.

The 2 year rule is nothing but a money maker.

Just my thoughts,
Bob

Jody Lang · 06-25-2014, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by HawkBrosMav

I'm sorry guys.. I know I'm not your typical go to 8-10 races a year Stock/SS guy, but I can guarantee you my belts are worn out after 2-2.5 years.. Deist.. Crow you name I've wore them out.. the rule is in place to take the liability off of the poor tech guy that just let your 10 year old belts pass tech, when you get seriously injured in an accident.. You people complaining that you don't want to replace them every 2 year would be the first ones in line to sue when the belt failed in an accident..

Brad

Brad , I'm curous how did you wear them out? The latch or the webbing? All brands?

Thanks.

03-27-2014, 07:31 PM	#1
Doug McCue Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 232 Likes: 7 Liked 13 Times in 2 Posts	Seat Belts Does the NHRA really need to have seat belts put in a stocker every two years? Could it be changed to a period more in line with how fast they wear out?

03-27-2014, 09:04 PM	#3
older racer Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 212 Likes: 13 Liked 68 Times in 26 Posts	Re: Seat Belts hi, in general aviation, seat belts are not replaced every two years, they sit out in the sun lots!!! especially open cockpit biplanes!!! when I worked for a dusting outfit, the stearmans were 20 yrs old, same belts that were installed in 1943 still in use in 1960-1970,s. If they deteriat that easily, then need better material/!!!! the two year rule is based off military jet fighters.

03-28-2014, 02:34 AM	#5
HawkBrosMav Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 362 Likes: 6 Liked 302 Times in 73 Posts	Re: Seat Belts I'm sorry guys.. I know I'm not your typical go to 8-10 races a year Stock/SS guy, but I can guarantee you my belts are worn out after 2-2.5 years.. Deist.. Crow you name I've wore them out.. the rule is in place to take the liability off of the poor tech guy that just let your 10 year old belts pass tech, when you get seriously injured in an accident.. You people complaining that you don't want to replace them every 2 year would be the first ones in line to sue when the belt failed in an accident.. Brad

03-28-2014, 05:07 AM	#6
tommy d Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Indiana Posts: 830 Likes: 1,609 Liked 359 Times in 135 Posts	Re: Seat Belts I got this. __________________ Who owns this car, with the peace sign,mag wheels, and four on the floor? Last edited by tommy d; 03-29-2014 at 10:45 PM.