HP on Monday? - Page 8

J.R. Haddad · 03-02-2025, 03:20 PM

Thanks Ron. I knew that some of those had gone to the 396/350/330, you
get a ton more cam. I guess it's the 350/255 that has me going hhmmm............

J.R.

tstickff · 03-02-2025, 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RULER

So now he shows up at the next race runs a test day then hears someone may want to take a look at his car, so he leaves the event? Anyone think there?s something wrong here? Looks wrong to me.

I don?t think that was the case, I know Kevin and Kevin is a straight shooter and I would guarantee he is legal. I believe the 1.30 under pass was a mistake on his part and I think NHRA screwed up giving the HP I see the circumstances stated here, if any of you guys knew Kevin you would know he is just as upset as you are by the mistake. I think more than anything the system, ?AHFS? is screwed up and needs some fine tuning by the higher ups. Just my .02

Tim Stickles

TILBURG · 03-02-2025, 07:17 PM

Question how much of a issue is it to have the software written that when there is a 1.30 under run it triggers the tower and then they can communicate with the scales? Maybe it will only result in finding out the guy/girl is in the wrong class but maybe this could have been avoided.
Second how much longer are you guys/girls going to run with this broken system. If this is supposed to be a performance based class then why is the most frequent ask question " what do i have to do to slow it down"?? Starting to sound more like a throttle stop class than a performance based class. What is the system there to protect?? Lets take the AH class you really think that them guys are going to see how much oil they can run and timing they can pull just to make the 3 at the bottom of the sheet feel better??? The time it takes to look at every run down the track what class it was in and a average of all them that time couldn't be better spent elsewhere. How do you race a performance based class with a noose around your neck and call it fun?

Bryan Worner · 03-02-2025, 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TILBURG

Question how much of a issue is it to have the software written that when there is a 1.30 under run it triggers the tower and then they can communicate with the scales? Maybe it will only result in finding out the guy/girl is in the wrong class but maybe this could have been avoided.
Second how much longer are you guys/girls going to run with this broken system. If this is supposed to be a performance based class then why is the most frequent ask question " what do i have to do to slow it down"?? Starting to sound more like a throttle stop class than a performance based class. What is the system there to protect?? Lets take the AH class you really think that them guys are going to see how much oil they can run and timing they can pull just to make the 3 at the bottom of the sheet feel better??? The time it takes to look at every run down the track what class it was in and an average of all them that time couldn't be better spent elsewhere. How do you race a performance based class with a noose around your neck and call it fun?

All of those in favor of not reducing the indexes by .3 are the ones you thank for that!

Lyn Smith · 03-02-2025, 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bryan Worner

All of those in favor of not reducing the indexes by .3 are the ones you thank for that!

Most SS and Stock racers are not concerned about the indexes or AHFS. At least not in Div. 3 where only 10% of the registered racers voted for, or against a change.

Dave Ficacci · 03-02-2025, 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lyn Smith

Most SS and Stock racers are not concerned about the indexes or AHFS. At least not in Div. 3 where only 10% of the registered racers voted for, or against a change.

What was the mechanism to vote?

Paul Precht · 03-02-2025, 11:19 PM

Reducing the indexes would be fine with me if they took 40hp off of the Max wedges like they did the 409s and 421s. These cars are pushing a lot more air than the Camaros, Novas and newer cars and the faster the A and B cars get the more of a disadvantage it is on bigger cars.

SDmopar · 03-02-2025, 11:52 PM

Maybe the easy fix is let?s go back to the original HP ratings on all combos. Then lower index 3 tenths and do away with the AFHS. Everyone will be happy and nobody will have a reason to cry. The automatic system was to create parity. It seems most don?t want that. So let?s do away with all previous corrections.

Paul Precht · 03-03-2025, 12:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SDmopar

Maybe the easy fix is let?s go back to the original HP ratings on all combos. Then lower index 3 tenths and do away with the AFHS. Everyone will be happy and nobody will have a reason to cry. The automatic system was to create parity. It seems most don?t want that. So let?s do away with all previous corrections.

That would make a lot of 72 and up Mopar 340-360- and 400 racers very happy as well as countless 72 and up GMs and Fords, it would be a mess far beyond words and a lot of the 60s cars would be dead. In a class that's mostly old guys including myself at 70 I don't see us starting all over again with a new car.
Just adding, that might be fun if we all had to run stock blocks, rockers and whatever transmission came with the car originally.

Sam The Butcher · 03-03-2025, 01:29 AM

Still waiting for the results of the NHRA teardown and verification of the run?

03-02-2025, 03:20 PM	#71
J.R. Haddad Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 784 Likes: 936 Liked 1,464 Times in 307 Posts	Re: HP on Monday? Thanks Ron. I knew that some of those had gone to the 396/350/330, you get a ton more cam. I guess it's the 350/255 that has me going hhmmm............ J.R.

03-02-2025, 07:17 PM	#73
TILBURG Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 44 Likes: 4 Liked 79 Times in 7 Posts	Re: HP on Monday? Question how much of a issue is it to have the software written that when there is a 1.30 under run it triggers the tower and then they can communicate with the scales? Maybe it will only result in finding out the guy/girl is in the wrong class but maybe this could have been avoided. Second how much longer are you guys/girls going to run with this broken system. If this is supposed to be a performance based class then why is the most frequent ask question " what do i have to do to slow it down"?? Starting to sound more like a throttle stop class than a performance based class. What is the system there to protect?? Lets take the AH class you really think that them guys are going to see how much oil they can run and timing they can pull just to make the 3 at the bottom of the sheet feel better??? The time it takes to look at every run down the track what class it was in and a average of all them that time couldn't be better spent elsewhere. How do you race a performance based class with a noose around your neck and call it fun?

03-02-2025, 11:19 PM	#77
Paul Precht Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Elysburg, Pa Posts: 731 Likes: 355 Liked 320 Times in 119 Posts	Re: HP on Monday? Reducing the indexes would be fine with me if they took 40hp off of the Max wedges like they did the 409s and 421s. These cars are pushing a lot more air than the Camaros, Novas and newer cars and the faster the A and B cars get the more of a disadvantage it is on bigger cars.

03-02-2025, 11:52 PM	#78
SDmopar Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Milbank SD Posts: 92 Likes: 16 Liked 196 Times in 46 Posts	Re: HP on Monday? Maybe the easy fix is let?s go back to the original HP ratings on all combos. Then lower index 3 tenths and do away with the AFHS. Everyone will be happy and nobody will have a reason to cry. The automatic system was to create parity. It seems most don?t want that. So let?s do away with all previous corrections. __________________ Brian Anderson 5058 B/SA 99 Chevy Camaro SS

03-03-2025, 01:29 AM	#80
Sam The Butcher Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 21 Likes: 49 Liked 12 Times in 9 Posts	Re: HP on Monday? Still waiting for the results of the NHRA teardown and verification of the run?