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Old 02-13-2016, 02:37 AM   #71
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In Washington state, only registered vehicles built between 1991 and 2008 require emissions testing. If it's not tested how would the Federal EPA find it?

Remember, I'm in the state that legalized pot sales. And no, I don't smoke it. It just seems like I do...

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The only area I know of on this side of the cascades that has the testing is Spokane. (currently)
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Old 02-13-2016, 03:07 AM   #72
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The only area I know of on this side of the cascades that has the testing is Spokane. (currently)
Just for the heck of it I looked up Arizona because there are so many solid pre emissions cars in dry states and the racing scene there is strong. The only testing zones are in Phoenix and Tucson.

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Old 02-13-2016, 09:07 AM   #73
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The mission of any State EPA or the Federal EPA is to help protect all of it's citizens. Not just for today but also for the future. It's not an easy job because we are all polluters and there are some people in this world who are determined to circumvent the EPA rules. I have been listening to this BS about the government is taking our liberties away for more than 60 years, and until the recent voter restriction laws popped up, I haven't found any reason to be concerned. The EPA is simply trying to provide our descendants with a habitable planet. The US EPA is also the most embattled agency in the federal government, so rest assured, all the special interests groups will fight every "problematic" rule it attempts to enact.
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Old 02-13-2016, 10:57 AM   #74
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It just seems ironic to me that so many of the components used in the building of emission certified vehicles for the U.S. are manufactured in countries that have little or no air pollution standards. It's the same atmosphere.
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Oh, the tragic irony of it all, and they are really paying for it.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...-pictures.html
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The mission of any State EPA or the Federal EPA is to help protect all of it's citizens. Not just for today but also for the future. It's not an easy job because we are all polluters and there are some people in this world who are determined to circumvent the EPA rules. I have been listening to this BS about the government is taking our liberties away for more than 60 years, and until the recent voter restriction laws popped up, I haven't found any reason to be concerned. The EPA is simply trying to provide our descendants with a habitable planet. The US EPA is also the most embattled agency in the federal government, so rest assured, all the special interests groups will fight every "problematic" rule it attempts to enact.
What is a voter restriction law?Is it like showing the proper ID before getting on a airplane or showing the proper ID before you enter another country while on vacation.LOL
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Oh, the tragic irony of it all, and they are really paying for it.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...-pictures.html
The tragic irony, as I and others see it, is that some people cannot make a distinction between building a race car used on a weekend (in some cases, one quarter mile at a time), and pollution caused by gross overpopulation and hyper-manufacturing.

And, indeed, regarding hyper-manufacturing: It is an outcome caused in part by an unquenchable need for material goods in developed countries that have had to offshore production due to overregulation.
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The mission of any State EPA or the Federal EPA is to help protect all of it's citizens. Not just for today but also for the future. It's not an easy job because we are all polluters and there are some people in this world who are determined to circumvent the EPA rules. I have been listening to this BS about the government is taking our liberties away for more than 60 years, and until the recent voter restriction laws popped up, I haven't found any reason to be concerned. The EPA is simply trying to provide our descendants with a habitable planet. The US EPA is also the most embattled agency in the federal government, so rest assured, all the special interests groups will fight every "problematic" rule it attempts to enact.

Not sure if serious or being sarcastic. Either way, debating it would be off topic. I just wanted to make sure that as many people as possible were informed about what is coming down the pike. My hope is they will call and email their congress people, sign petitions and pass the information along to others. Maybe it will help if enough people speak up. Doing nothing is telling them they we're OK with whatever they want to take from or do to us. Being involved in other non-PC pursuits has taught me, if you just sit there and hope for the best, the "government knows best" crowd is going to run you over. Do what you think is best.
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What is a voter restriction law?Is it like showing the proper ID before getting on a airplane or showing the proper ID before you enter another country while on vacation.LOL
Not that I expect you to read it:

http://www.nationalmemo.com/pennsylv...c-vote-in-2012

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Passing laws that reduce polling stations and hours of operation is blatant voter suppression. There is nothing funny about voting. It is a serious matter.

Edit: cellphone issues with links. Google voter suppression - especially in PA.
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Oh, the tragic irony of it all, and they are really paying for it.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...-pictures.html
Not surprising but very ironic. People in California think it's bad they should take a trip over there.
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