Want to loose 3200 ugly pounds?

[Richard Grant]

I don't think that we can win the battle as a safety issue. NHRA will just require all cars to meet the needed spec and allow the new cars bigger tires,special suspensions, etc. With the power that Mopar and Ford companies have we will probably lose any battle. Our choices will be run IHRA, local brackets or stay home. Well, it was fun while it lasted.
The lower class cars might not see the threat but when the new cars use parts that give them an unfair advantage just as the upper class cars are experiencing with headsup runs then everyone will realize we're being shafted also. Already the FI cars can use e-shift and we cannot. As Larry has pointed out now they can use traction control what will be next?

[Bob Pagano]

Get on with the thread........Its about getting them in there own class, not what they need to be safe. If you dont feel safe fix your car so you feel safe in it, you dont need nhra to do that.

[Jeff Teuton]

I assume you guys know that the under 10.00 safety rules are in effect for the cars going that fast. I think we run the Super Stock spec; 8.5 certified cage, A5 Jacket/pants, net,collar, 4B license, trans shield or the super cases, & whatever else there is. If you haven't been that fast, then you probably wouldn't know. If you haven't raced, then you probably don't know.
In Houston in AA/SA NHRA checked every item on our car, and I assume on all other stock car going in the 9's as we expected them to do.

[Andys dad]

I am pretty sure some of the older 9 second stockers have not had to have the 4B license, $500 worth of upgraded safety clothing and 8.50 certified cage.

I hope the rule enforcement is consistent to protect them as well as those of us with new cars

Our car was also thoroughly check at Vegas by the entire Tech crew


:-) peace

[Alan Roehrich]

Originally Posted by Andys dad

I am pretty sure some of the older 9 second stockers have not had to have the 4B license, $500 worth of upgraded safety clothing and 8.50 certified cage.

I hope the rule enforcement is consistent to protect them as well as those of us with new cars

Our car was also thoroughly check at Vegas by the entire Tech crew


:-) peace

I'm pretty sure you're wrong. With the advent of the AA class, the rules were fairly strictly enforced, several people have been told they either could not race, or if they went faster than 10.00 they'd be sent home. I agree that this was not the case before AA was created. But that was because 9 second passes were quite rare on the old 11.30 index. We've been checked for every piece required to run 9's, every time, and that includes the Open races, as well as National Events and LODRS races.

[Marvin Robinson]

All this controversy is what happens when the factories politic for grossly soft HP ratings for the cars (I suppose to guarantee their brand ends up in the winner's circle right off the bat), and NHRA goes for it. We would not have this debate going on if the cars had started in the right classes to begin with....

[Jeff Teuton]

I guess all the cars were in the right class to start?

[C and W Racing]

Originally Posted by Marvin Robinson

All this controversy is what happens when the factories politic for grossly soft HP ratings for the cars (I suppose to guarantee their brand ends up in the winner's circle right off the bat), and NHRA goes for it. We would not have this debate going on if the cars had started in the right classes to begin with....

Other than the Winternationals when the Cobra Jet's debuted, and with some breaks going his way, how many National and Divisional races have been contested and how many Cobra Jets and Drag Pacs have been in the winners circle? I'm not thinking very many. It's for the most part a bracket race and it looks to me like the vast majority of winners are in the older combo's. Class eliminations, you may have a point, but that has become a joke anyway. Even races that have class, the car count is down and half of what they do is a combo race.
Chuck

[X-TECH MAN]

Originally Posted by C and W Racing

Other than the Winternationals when the Cobra Jet's debuted, and with some breaks going his way, how many National and Divisional races have been contested and how many Cobra Jets and Drag Pacs have been in the winners circle? I'm not thinking very many. It's for the most part a bracket race and it looks to me like the vast majority of winners are in the older combo's. Class eliminations, you may have a point, but that has become a joke anyway. Even races that have class, the car count is down and half of what they do is a combo race.
Chuck

But suppose you have to run one of these new under rated cars heads up in the first or second round. Your DEAD MEAT when that happens and you have NO CHANCE at winning the "bracket race".

[Alan Roehrich]

Originally Posted by C and W Racing

Other than the Winternationals when the Cobra Jet's debuted, and with some breaks going his way, how many National and Divisional races have been contested and how many Cobra Jets and Drag Pacs have been in the winners circle? I'm not thinking very many. It's for the most part a bracket race and it looks to me like the vast majority of winners are in the older combo's. Class eliminations, you may have a point, but that has become a joke anyway. Even races that have class, the car count is down and half of what they do is a combo race.
Chuck

At least twice in recent history, two VERY good traditional cars with two very good drivers have had their clocks cleaned in heads up races with the new cars. Two guys who are proven winners, who were robbed of any chance to win by a bogus factor, in final eliminations.