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Old 12-13-2010, 03:15 AM   #71
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How could Andy's Dad have run stock elim, as long as he has and doesn't understand the difference between the factored Hp and the real HP an engine makes, Doe's this guy own a tool box?. PS good luck with that under rated car!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
you know enough with the bashing. instead of all this talking why dont you do something about it huh? we've all got priorities and maybe his are taking this new car thing as a blessing.

and by the way, if u have not lost a heads up round to a CJ or DP car yet then you should just SHUT YOUR MOUTH. if u have, then please express your opinion, by all means. but until it DIRECTLY affects you, why dont u just sit back and enjoy some fast cars. isnt that what we all used to do?

how bout when bobby d ran the first 9 second run in stock. were people complaining about him being underrated then? i dont think so. why dont people do some research about what class ur local dp or cj car will run and add or subtract some weight to not be in that persons class.

seems like some people are just jealous and havent had anything to complain about in a few years..

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Old 12-13-2010, 03:21 AM   #72
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oh and im pretty sure Andy's dad has a toolbox. i did some snooping and saw he ran 10.29 at pomona. if it had been two years earlier all of u stuck up jerks would have been yelling at nhra for him to get horsepower. so yeah he has a toolbox. and he makes his car run, good. why dont u run ur car in B/SA and race him heads up?
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Old 12-13-2010, 09:58 AM   #73
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We do not need 6, 6.5lb. classes, This new DP has .680 lift cam, big throttle body, cnc'ed heads, aluminum Intake, Milodon oil pan, and a free for all on how you would like to build the rear suspension, I am not real sure but that description to me sounds like a Super Stocker not a Stocker.

I remember when the first LT-1 came out, everybody started to build them, It cost me a division Championship, they were wicked fast, but I was told by a NHRA Official on several occasions, This is what it was like when the 67 camaro came out and kicked everyone's ***, deal with it or build a different combo.
It's wrong what is going on, but it reminds me of what happened to me in 1994 with the LT-1.

I don't blame you Greg for staying around home, but remember 1 thing,you only live once ,and this time you have with your son is special times for him right now, go enjoy them.
Hey buddy, the good thing about racing close to home is all of our combo races. We won't miss time together doing what we love. We will still probably race 14 or 15 weekends this summer.
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Old 12-13-2010, 10:01 AM   #74
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While I couldn't possibly race more than I do now, the new cars have directly affected the decisions I've made. I sat back and watched. It became painfully obvious that NHRA wasn't going to do anything about the new cars. That, combined with how all of the schedules have been changing over the years, I have elected to sell my crate motor, and build a new engine to go Super Stock racing. A wise man with a funny accent and a beer cooler once told me something along the lines of 'If you can't beat 'em, join 'em.' If nothing else, it gave me a good excuse to call and talk to Scott Helms at Southland Speed. He makes me laugh.

Well, congratulations. Make sure you send NHRA a Christmas Card.
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Old 12-13-2010, 10:10 AM   #75
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I still can not believe most of you guys are unwilling to admit there are many combinations in the older cars which are at least 200 HP underrated.

I have mentioned the 425/427 before but I could list 20 others - pick any combo that can run a second under

You guys just want to complain about being 300 HP off

Give it a rest - I know it is tough back there in the cold and snow but out here in Los Angeles it i a beautiful sunny day - temperature 85 degrees

Enjoy

:-) peace
Andy please tell me witch 427 ci chevy or any other is 200 hp underated? Jim Hanig
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Old 12-13-2010, 10:15 AM   #76
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Well, in that case, you lift off the throttle and make sure your opponent is well down track, then you cross the centerline.


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Great post Toby ! LMAO
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Old 12-13-2010, 10:33 AM   #77
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Default Re: How are the new cars remaining in Stock classes going to affect your racing this

If your a hundred or so light after loosing a heads up, but hit the trigger yourself, it shouldn't count. Right? Lol
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Old 12-13-2010, 11:21 AM   #78
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Well just for fun, if you add 200HP to the NHRA HP factor for the 427 in question and it is running in A/SA you would have to add 1,600LBS, which would put a hard charging 10.00 Camaro in the mid 11s or so, if you could get down the track without breaking or popping all of the tires. About 5,200LBS on the weight sticker.
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Old 12-13-2010, 11:26 AM   #79
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Paul, I think he just wrote a check for his kid. He doesn't really know how it works.
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Old 12-13-2010, 12:01 PM   #80
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Ok, although I may not agree with all of his post or points, Ron Durham (Andys dad) is a good guy and has been class racing a long time. We used to share info years ago when we both ran 71 454 425 hp Chevelles. He is not an idiot when it comes to stock eliminator racing.
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