Spy shots - Don Garlits Challenger - Page 8

Bob Pagano · 03-17-2009, 08:34 AM

DVORAK has finished that car before that and is now updating it for todays standards, I have seen pictures and it is real sharp !

X-TECH MAN · 03-17-2009, 08:43 AM

Bob....Did he ever sell his red 63 Max Wedge ?

Bob Pagano · 03-17-2009, 10:23 AM

Not that I am aware of, he said why run the wedge in AA when he could run the hemi ! The 63 is worth big money with the Alum nose.

Jeff Lee · 03-17-2009, 03:17 PM

1962-1964 Dodge / Plymouth Max-Wedge cars:
Factory built race cars
No warranty
Immediately in Stock Eliminator class.

Can't believe I didn't bring that up a month ago...

Myron Piatek · 03-17-2009, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeff Lee

1962-1964 Dodge / Plymouth Max-Wedge cars:
Factory built race cars
No warranty
Immediately in Stock Eliminator class.

Can't believe I didn't bring that up a month ago...

I'm not taking sides, just being objective. But you could drive the Max Wedge cars off of the showroom floor and on the street, legally. The '68 Hemi Cudas and Darts are the closest thing I can think of to the current Challengers. But, of course, those ended up in SS only.

I think that the push for Stock may have been influenced by the fact that they could be finished faster and at a lesser expense than SS. More exposure and sooner, especially with the Ford "threat".

Frito · 03-17-2009, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Tony DePillo

Whats that? Can I run it with my 64?? Is that a new nmca class?
I'll be content to watch and take my old dog out a few times. I will also watch with interest as Terry and Alex move forward with their program. I am encouraged by the renewed interest in drag racing by the American Auto Co's as they sit on their death beds.
On a serious note, I don't see how these cars are any more of a stretch than the crop of GT cars we've seen in the last few years.
I should probably keep my big mouth shut, as I don't have a dog in this fight. Just get out there and do the best you can with what you have and have fun.

Exactly, Interesting, 68 glass front cuda with scoop, running with a 440 (GT/CA) or even a 383. I don't remember them coming home this way. What has Super Stock become? Nothing more than bracket racing!!!!!! This is why the SS/AH class has such a following!!!

X-TECH MAN · 03-17-2009, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Frito

Exactly, Interesting, 68 glass front cuda with scoop, running with a 440 (GT/CA) or even a 383. I don't remember them coming home this way. What has Super Stock become? Nothing more than bracket racing!!!!!! This is why the SS/AH class has such a following!!!

Its a 383 in the SSGT/CA. The SS/AH heads up deal has become a millionairs club bastard class with the lack of tech. The engines in some (not all before someone jumps on me) of those cars are more exotic than the pro stock engines of the Hemi Pro Stock era. The decks are cut .400 to .500 to use a lighter shorter piston. The lifter boss angles are sleved and moved along with the rocker shafts mounting for better geometry. Large diameter cams. Some with roller bearings. I still say that at least one or two run a titanium crank. OK....you can flame me but I know better about whats going on. By the way the guys with the GT/CA car are NOT the cars Im talking about.

bsa633 · 03-17-2009, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by X-TECH MAN

The decks are cut .400 to .500 to use a lighter shorter piston. The lifter boss angles are sleved and moved along with the rocker shafts mounting for better geometry. Large diameter cams. Some with roller bearings. I still say that at least one or two run a titanium crank.

Not exclusive to SS/AH ...more the standard in most record setting SS engines..

Frito · 03-17-2009, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by X-TECH MAN

Its a 383 in the SSGT/CA. The SS/AH heads up deal has become a millionairs club bastard class with the lack of tech. The engines in some (not all before someone jumps on me) of those cars are more exotic than the pro stock engines of the Hemi Pro Stock era. The decks are cut .400 to .500 to use a lighter shorter piston. The lifter boss angles are sleved and moved along with the rocker shafts mounting for better geometry. Large diameter cams. Some with roller bearings. I still say that at least one or two run a titanium crank. OK....you can flame me but I know better about whats going on. By the way the guys with the GT/CA car are NOT the cars Im talking about.

I agree on the engines but I still show up at Indy for Thursday and Friday only!!

rx dealer · 03-18-2009, 06:32 AM

If you look very close to the Challenger you cannot drive it the way it is from the factory unlike the max wedge/hemi cars. the challenger does not have a rear end or rear brakes, it only has a cradle for an independent rear suspention from a mercedes E class without the center section and drive shafts so it can roll. I did not see a wiring harness. It had an interior with Viper seats ,dash ,gauges and even power windows and comes with 4 steel wheels and SNOW tires. It has mark williams front brakes and a transmission ( not drivable ) just so the engine can sit in place. Al you had to do with the old Hemi/Wedge cars is to put slicks and race. By the way I think the Cobra Jet was a much better deal. It's a ready race car...Luke

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Bob Pagano VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: New Holland, PA Mooresville,NC Posts: 1,163 Likes: 239 Liked 16 Times in 11 Posts	Re: Spy shots - Don Garlits Challenger DVORAK has finished that car before that and is now updating it for todays standards, I have seen pictures and it is real sharp ! __________________ Bob Pagano A/SA

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X-TECH MAN Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Lake Placid, Florida Posts: 3,203 Likes: 1,047 Liked 235 Times in 110 Posts	Re: Spy shots - Don Garlits Challenger Bob....Did he ever sell his red 63 Max Wedge ?

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Bob Pagano VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: New Holland, PA Mooresville,NC Posts: 1,163 Likes: 239 Liked 16 Times in 11 Posts	Re: Spy shots - Don Garlits Challenger Not that I am aware of, he said why run the wedge in AA when he could run the hemi ! The 63 is worth big money with the Alum nose. __________________ Bob Pagano A/SA

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Jeff Lee VIP Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Anthem, Arizona Posts: 2,766 Likes: 0 Liked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Spy shots - Don Garlits Challenger 1962-1964 Dodge / Plymouth Max-Wedge cars: Factory built race cars No warranty Immediately in Stock Eliminator class. Can't believe I didn't bring that up a month ago... __________________ Jeff Lee 7494 D/S '70 AMX

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rx dealer Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Lake Orion, Michigan Posts: 337 Likes: 12 Liked 53 Times in 13 Posts	Re: Spy shots - Don Garlits Challenger If you look very close to the Challenger you cannot drive it the way it is from the factory unlike the max wedge/hemi cars. the challenger does not have a rear end or rear brakes, it only has a cradle for an independent rear suspention from a mercedes E class without the center section and drive shafts so it can roll. I did not see a wiring harness. It had an interior with Viper seats ,dash ,gauges and even power windows and comes with 4 steel wheels and SNOW tires. It has mark williams front brakes and a transmission ( not drivable ) just so the engine can sit in place. Al you had to do with the old Hemi/Wedge cars is to put slicks and race. By the way I think the Cobra Jet was a much better deal. It's a ready race car...Luke Last edited by rx dealer; 03-18-2009 at 06:36 AM.