U/SA

[Mark Yacavone]

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2004#indextop


Okay then. I'm confused...
Wasn't there a second shootout, when Bob Shaw ran his Seville? He ran in the 12's but didn't end up winning, because it was a CIC race?
Maybe I'm thinking of Beard's deal at Columbus

[Jack McCarthy]

after the first year pat ran a FREE no breakout race on friday night. first year shaw won with the TAXI freemans car i made semis in witch doctor fast guys whined so after that he made it a CIC race from then on ... bob went -217 in caddy in final but took a hit ever round to get there and lost

that clear it up ??

capt

[Tom P]

Originally Posted by goinbroke2

I've always wanted to build a stocker, no way can I afford it, so I'll buy....I'm a ford guy so I can buy a "CJ for $125,000" or a "351C for $70,000" or once in a while, far, far away (in the states, lol) I'll see a pinto/escort/foxbody. There are your ford choices if you want to run a ford in Stock.

How about a mid 70's Torino 460... red with a white Starsky and Hutch stripe and slot mags would be cool.

Wouldn't fit U unless they switched it's weight as much as new Challengers but the other way.

[Billy Nees]

Originally Posted by goinbroke2

Perhaps if a combo hasn't been built or run for X amount of time, hp should be reverted to stock hp? Kind of like records?

I've always thought that this would be a good idea especially if a combo has NEVER been competitively run in competition. But maybe not go all of the way back to OEM HP in most cases. There would have to be some common sense involved. Also, if a combo has EVER received a HP hit IN COMPETITION, it wouldn't qualify.

[Mark Yacavone]

Originally Posted by Jack McCarthy

after the first year pat ran a FREE no breakout race on friday night. first year shaw won with the TAXI freemans car i made semis in witch doctor fast guys whined so after that he made it a CIC race from then on ... bob went -217 in caddy in final but took a hit ever round to get there and lost

that clear it up ??

capt

Okay...Sort of.
So if it happens again, do we want a CIC deal? 1 second under trigger?
Next year @ St Louis would be centrally located at least...Maybe Tyler and co. would accommodate it. With all the racing available, it might be worth it to travel from the outer reaches.
Thoughts , anyone ?

[L.Fite]

So...
How is the 230/140hp L6 as a combo?
In a Camaro.
Looks tough... no compression, 1bbl...
How's parts availability?
Curiosity strikes...

[Doug Hoven]

Originally Posted by L.Fite

So...
How is the 230/140hp L6 as a combo?
In a Camaro.
Looks tough... no compression, 1bbl...
How's parts availability?
Curiosity strikes...

Billy would know better than I would, being that he played with two different cars with that combo for about 20 years. Some parts are easier to find than others. When I ordered a cam 2 years ago, I was told by bullet they had to search far and wide for a cam core for me. Stock connecting rods and crankshaft seems fine for the rpm capability of the motor (lack there of). The intakes and cylinder heads don't exactly fall out of trees, but they are out there. When I rebuilt the engine, it was not a "high dollar" rebuild, but it was all good parts. It's not a bad U/SA car to bracket race, but is more competitive in V/SA. I wouldn't be surprised with enough cash and time it could be a .75-.80 under combo in V. Would be neat to see one built with a third pedal. I was close to doing that, but went the v8 route instead. BTW for those curious, I had a vacuum gauge on the car for a few runs. Pulled about 7-8 in. of vacuum at the top end with that tiny carb. Fun fact the dimensions are the same as one hole of an 850 holley.

[Bill Bogues]

Afew years back I ran a 82 Monte Carlo in U with a 267/ It was factory rated at 115 hp, but Nhra saw fit to bump hp to150 without even seeing what could be done with it.Stated out with15.0 and eventually got it to run fairly consistent 14.40's and 50's. Best I ever ran was 14.20 @90 in killer air at No Problem. This was not a money is no object car but had good parts in car and engine.I felt that hp on engine was too high and that it should have been around 135 or 140 at start , then s ee how it turns out.Sure enjoyed running car and if things played out right would like to run it again but there's no way I feel like it's a 1.30 or higher car.

[Billy Nees]

Originally Posted by L.Fite

So...How is the 230/140hp L6 as a combo?

It treated me quite well. It would need more HP back to make it a "hitter" in the 21ST Century but it is a good, dependable combo that would probably respond well to a metric or a 4 speed. You can have cams made that will "make" compression (cylinder pressure) but, in the end you're still dealing with a 210 CFM carb..

[GTS340]

Gees 210 is a little guy. I like your line Billy. Might have to call you General Nees. Fun stuff this U/SA class. How is the average doing on the 302 this year?

Paul Haszlauer