What about STOCK ? - Page 7

tgriffith · 08-05-2007, 06:23 PM

Todd,,Im guilty of the same thing in brackets,,,my footer runs 7.0`s @ 107mph with a 1.76 60ft....racing at every level has almost become a spending frenzy with the best of parts and all the tricks just to keep a competitive edge

Chip THELEGEND Johnson · 08-05-2007, 06:35 PM

Himes was asking much more than that at one time.
14k is a long way from 10K.

How many rds have those 2 cars won in the last 5 years. My point being those are 2 good cars but building a COMPETITIVE car will cost over 20K minimum and depending on the class will be double.

STOCK is not stock anymore. STOCK is far from entry level. Racing cost lots of money regardless of the class you enter.

Now back to the original post (Sorry Jim did'nt mean to HiJack the thred.)

Super Stock and Stock to be different. Stock needs to have NO 2-STEPS or BUTTONS of any kind. INCLUDING STICK CARS. If you want a button try Brackets,.90 class or Super Stock.

Chip Johnson

fredjohnston · 08-05-2007, 08:44 PM

I wouldn't mind seeing delay boxes in stock.

Dave Ficacci · 08-05-2007, 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chip THELEGEND Johnson

Show me a competitive 10K stocker. I'll buy it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Chip

Lee Valentines Mustang goes 1.0 under for less than 10K.

Why are some of you so adamant about taking the 2 steps away from stick cars?? Most stock fields only have a handful of stick cars entered and its not the norm for one to go deep into eliminations (excluding Helms). Do you feel that if a stick car has a 2 step on the starting line and you dont that you are at a disadvantage?? If so, put a stick in your car with a 2 step and lets see how consistant you are on the tree and on the track with it. I bet you put your slushbox back in, in less than a month.

Besides, if you take away the 2 (or 3) step from Stock Eliminator, 65% of the field wont make it out of the burnout box....

Chip THELEGEND Johnson · 08-05-2007, 09:24 PM

Dave,
I taught at Roy Hill's Drag Racing School for 5 years. The first thing we taught was how to do a burnout. Roy always said if you can't control yourself in the water you'll never make it down the track.

I'm done on this thread because it keeps getting away from the original subject. A lot of it's my fault too.
Chip

John Dinkel · 08-07-2007, 12:58 PM

No buttons, no two steps, make it simple.

jdfpam · 08-07-2007, 01:29 PM

John,
That would be all it took. Take them out, end of controversy. Maybe the same guys would win everything, maybe not. I would love to see it happen and find out. Level the playing field without the driver aids. I hope the tech officials will finally do something about this.

JEFF DAY

Michael Beard · 08-07-2007, 02:25 PM

>> Most stock fields only have a handful of stick cars entered and its not the norm for one to go deep into eliminations (excluding Helms).

Ironically enough, Dave Wenzel destroyed me this weekend with an .015 package! LOL Awesome run, Dave. It was an honor to race with you!

Stick cars can have 2-steps. There's no need for anyone else to have them.

>> Besides, if you take away the 2 (or 3) step from Stock Eliminator, 65% of the field wont make it out of the burnout box....

Do WHAT?! Boy, I missed the smiley face after that one.

If you can't do a burnout without a 2-step, y'all should just put 'em back in the trailer right now! (I doubt 65% of the field is even using a 2-step anyhoo) -=shrug=-

tgriffith · 08-07-2007, 03:20 PM

it would be nice to see just how the majority feels,,,,I think that after the last couple of years ,,racers are finally starting to see the lite or at least where its going,,,,,,stick cars do need them and I think that everyone that drives an automatic understands its a fair trade off,,

LouisJeffery · 08-07-2007, 09:08 PM

The best way to level the field is MAKE everyone convert to 4 speed stick. No inline shifter, No faceplating gears, No aftermarket transmissions and a OEM style clutch and flywheel. That would show the drivers and the chassis tuners and you WOULD have NEW WINNERS!!!!!!!!
Just a crazy outburst but one more vote NO electronics or buttons in stock!!!!

08-05-2007, 06:23 PM	#61
tgriffith Member Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 187 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: What about STOCK ? Todd,,Im guilty of the same thing in brackets,,,my footer runs 7.0`s @ 107mph with a 1.76 60ft....racing at every level has almost become a spending frenzy with the best of parts and all the tricks just to keep a competitive edge

08-05-2007, 06:35 PM	#62
Chip THELEGEND Johnson Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 284 Likes: 223 Liked 281 Times in 79 Posts	Re: What about STOCK ? Himes was asking much more than that at one time. 14k is a long way from 10K. How many rds have those 2 cars won in the last 5 years. My point being those are 2 good cars but building a COMPETITIVE car will cost over 20K minimum and depending on the class will be double. STOCK is not stock anymore. STOCK is far from entry level. Racing cost lots of money regardless of the class you enter. Now back to the original post (Sorry Jim did'nt mean to HiJack the thred.) Super Stock and Stock to be different. Stock needs to have NO 2-STEPS or BUTTONS of any kind. INCLUDING STICK CARS. If you want a button try Brackets,.90 class or Super Stock. Chip Johnson

08-05-2007, 08:44 PM	#63
fredjohnston Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 341 Likes: 0 Liked 55 Times in 14 Posts	Re: What about STOCK ? I wouldn't mind seeing delay boxes in stock.

08-05-2007, 09:24 PM	#65
Chip THELEGEND Johnson Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 284 Likes: 223 Liked 281 Times in 79 Posts	Re: What about STOCK ? Dave, I taught at Roy Hill's Drag Racing School for 5 years. The first thing we taught was how to do a burnout. Roy always said if you can't control yourself in the water you'll never make it down the track. I'm done on this thread because it keeps getting away from the original subject. A lot of it's my fault too. Chip

08-07-2007, 12:58 PM	#66
John Dinkel Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Pinckney, Michigan Posts: 507 Likes: 399 Liked 263 Times in 68 Posts	Re: What about STOCK ? No buttons, no two steps, make it simple.

08-07-2007, 01:29 PM	#67
jdfpam Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Ohio Posts: 186 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: What about STOCK ? John, That would be all it took. Take them out, end of controversy. Maybe the same guys would win everything, maybe not. I would love to see it happen and find out. Level the playing field without the driver aids. I hope the tech officials will finally do something about this. JEFF DAY

08-07-2007, 02:25 PM	#68
Michael Beard VIP Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 4,060 Likes: 0 Liked 13 Times in 9 Posts	Re: What about STOCK ? >> Most stock fields only have a handful of stick cars entered and its not the norm for one to go deep into eliminations (excluding Helms). Ironically enough, Dave Wenzel destroyed me this weekend with an .015 package! LOL Awesome run, Dave. It was an honor to race with you! Stick cars can have 2-steps. There's no need for anyone else to have them. >> Besides, if you take away the 2 (or 3) step from Stock Eliminator, 65% of the field wont make it out of the burnout box.... Do WHAT?! Boy, I missed the smiley face after that one. If you can't do a burnout without a 2-step, y'all should just put 'em back in the trailer right now! (I doubt 65% of the field is even using a 2-step anyhoo) -=shrug=- __________________ Michael Beard - NHRA/IHRA 3216 S/SS

08-07-2007, 03:20 PM	#69
tgriffith Member Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 187 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: What about STOCK ? it would be nice to see just how the majority feels,,,,I think that after the last couple of years ,,racers are finally starting to see the lite or at least where its going,,,,,,stick cars do need them and I think that everyone that drives an automatic understands its a fair trade off,,

08-07-2007, 09:08 PM	#70
LouisJeffery Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Detroit Posts: 53 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: What about STOCK ? The best way to level the field is MAKE everyone convert to 4 speed stick. No inline shifter, No faceplating gears, No aftermarket transmissions and a OEM style clutch and flywheel. That would show the drivers and the chassis tuners and you WOULD have NEW WINNERS!!!!!!!! Just a crazy outburst but one more vote NO electronics or buttons in stock!!!!