Has anyone changed their mind about AA/SA index? - Page 7

Dave Casey · 04-12-2016, 03:29 PM

My car is a natural B car, so I cannot make AA. However on a number of occasions I have considered switching to the L88 combo which would put me in AA. I don't want to do that because of 2 things 1. the index is too fast and I occasionally go to Indy and also care about how I qualify. 2. I wish there was a class faster than AA, I don't like running a car any heavier than need be so I wouldn't wish to run the current AA weight brake.

To answer the original question, I would want the index to be moved slower 1-3 tenths.

Jim Bailey · 06-07-2016, 09:09 AM

In a preview of Indy, at the Jegs Sportsnationals, with a qualified 128 car field, I was just wondering how the large contengent of AA/ stockers made out ?

GTOMayhem · 06-07-2016, 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim Bailey

In a preview of Indy, at the Jegs Sportsnationals, with a qualified 128 car field, I was just wondering how the large contengent of AA/ stockers made out ?

http://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCSt...r2016#indextop

127 2020 AA/SA Brenda Grubbs, Magnolia TX, '69 Camaro 10.260 10.60 -0.340

Looks like only 1 AA car showed up. 127th.

Rick Thomason
GTOMayhem

Dave Ficacci · 06-07-2016, 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim Bailey

In a preview of Indy, at the Jegs Sportsnationals, with a qualified 128 car field, I was just wondering how the large contengent of AA/ stockers made out ?

When the sole AA car there is outrun by B/SA cars you can't really put much into the debate..
What I found interesting is that considering Larry was going 9.89/9.90 in A had he not lifted he would have been a low 9.70s in AA based on the math earlier discussed in this thread. That would have put him around the #50 qualifier.

Larry Hill · 06-07-2016, 01:52 PM

No way we could get the car that light. Our best chance to get "that" light would have Allison Smyth run the car by remote control.

modelman1960 · 06-07-2016, 01:58 PM

Larry, Remember that Allison have a masters in electrical engineering.
She'll take the challenge and make that work, so be careful what you ask for. LOL
Love your's and Patsy's Live from threads. They make us closer to the racing and the racers.
God Bless,
Walt

Jeff Teuton · 06-07-2016, 10:20 PM

How about this. Dodge Hellcat. 4400 lbs, AA/SA What do you think Jimbo?

Tom P · 06-08-2016, 11:32 PM

4400lbs, that'll be easy on parts. Can the Dana 80 rear end from the one ton trucks be used?

You know the AA index is wrong when so many cars add weight and run A instead.

HR9121 · 06-09-2016, 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeff Teuton

How about this. Dodge Hellcat. 4400 lbs, AA/SA What do you think Jimbo?

My father-in-law has one, I wonder if I can talk him into letting me turn it into a stocker? Hmmmm.....

Jim Bailey · 06-09-2016, 08:47 AM

Mr. Jeff : Thanks for bringing up one of my previous points. It's only a matter of time before one or more of the new "street car" combos will fit into AA/S... As nice as it is to have an "ALL OUT paper car class", AHFS, with the current index, will be slow to adjust these under factored new car combos. The current self serving, no index change advocates will be crying the blues when their combo - like mine - is made obsolete overnight, for about 5 years or until the HP adjustments are brought in line. Some of us old farts will be dead by then. I guess we can be buried with our old muscle cars and our egos.

04-12-2016, 03:29 PM	#61
Dave Casey VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Hampden, MA Posts: 1,202 Likes: 233 Liked 797 Times in 165 Posts	Re: Has anyone changed their mind about AA/SA index? My car is a natural B car, so I cannot make AA. However on a number of occasions I have considered switching to the L88 combo which would put me in AA. I don't want to do that because of 2 things 1. the index is too fast and I occasionally go to Indy and also care about how I qualify. 2. I wish there was a class faster than AA, I don't like running a car any heavier than need be so I wouldn't wish to run the current AA weight brake. To answer the original question, I would want the index to be moved slower 1-3 tenths. __________________ Dave Casey 1330 STK

06-07-2016, 09:09 AM	#62
Jim Bailey Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 674 Likes: 15 Liked 584 Times in 94 Posts	Re: Has anyone changed their mind about AA/SA index? In a preview of Indy, at the Jegs Sportsnationals, with a qualified 128 car field, I was just wondering how the large contengent of AA/ stockers made out ?

06-07-2016, 01:52 PM	#65
Larry Hill Live Reporter Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Hickory, Ky Posts: 10,650 Likes: 1,942 Liked 10,767 Times in 2,238 Posts	Re: Has anyone changed their mind about AA/SA index? No way we could get the car that light. Our best chance to get "that" light would have Allison Smyth run the car by remote control. __________________ IHM Used Parts https://ihmusedparts.com 888-821-1817

06-07-2016, 01:58 PM	#66
modelman1960 Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Central N.Y. Posts: 230 Likes: 2 Liked 55 Times in 22 Posts	Re: Has anyone changed their mind about AA/SA index? Larry, Remember that Allison have a masters in electrical engineering. She'll take the challenge and make that work, so be careful what you ask for. LOL Love your's and Patsy's Live from threads. They make us closer to the racing and the racers. God Bless, Walt

06-07-2016, 10:20 PM	#67
Jeff Teuton VIP Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Houma, LA Posts: 2,717 Likes: 2 Liked 325 Times in 50 Posts	Re: Has anyone changed their mind about AA/SA index? How about this. Dodge Hellcat. 4400 lbs, AA/SA What do you think Jimbo? __________________ Jeff Teuton 4022 STK

06-08-2016, 11:32 PM	#68
Tom P Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 707 Likes: 30 Liked 239 Times in 94 Posts	Re: Has anyone changed their mind about AA/SA index? 4400lbs, that'll be easy on parts. Can the Dana 80 rear end from the one ton trucks be used? You know the AA index is wrong when so many cars add weight and run A instead.

06-09-2016, 08:47 AM	#70
Jim Bailey Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 674 Likes: 15 Liked 584 Times in 94 Posts	Re: Has anyone changed their mind about AA/SA index? Mr. Jeff : Thanks for bringing up one of my previous points. It's only a matter of time before one or more of the new "street car" combos will fit into AA/S... As nice as it is to have an "ALL OUT paper car class", AHFS, with the current index, will be slow to adjust these under factored new car combos. The current self serving, no index change advocates will be crying the blues when their combo - like mine - is made obsolete overnight, for about 5 years or until the HP adjustments are brought in line. Some of us old farts will be dead by then. I guess we can be buried with our old muscle cars and our egos.