New to Stock - Buying an 85 Camaro G/H/I??

dustin423k · 07-09-2015, 04:30 PM

Hey Guys,

Looking for some guidance and input on looking to buy this car from a Division 2 race Jamie Hairrington. Not sure if he is ever on this site but has anyone seen this car and know what it is capable of, legal for NHRA? etc. He has told me up front that he has not entered in an NHRA event because they have 2 other cars and time is spent on those cars which I fully believe him, just want to get some input on what this car would run or what it would take to run G/SA?
Engine is a 307 block sleeved

Thanks in advance, Dustin Vassar

James Perrone · 07-09-2015, 04:39 PM

A. Time slip would help

dustin423k · 07-09-2015, 05:01 PM

^^ Agreed. Dont think it has made a full pass at full potential because of the wrong piston rings being in it.

"I pulled motor and found wrong ring combo. Could use "better" pistons and ring combo. Has latest bullet cam, Sherman style lifters, roller rockers. Comes with fresh Boburka carb. Also has fresh th350 and converter.
Fresh wiring, arc switch panel, cheetah shifter, new gauges, and brand new camlock belts. Car will pass tech.

12 bolt 5.13 gear
All S&W torque arm and frame connectors
Strange SA rear shocks
Fresh th350 trans and converter

Engine is a 307 block sleeved
Everything is fresh but has older TRW pistons and wrong ring combo. Motor is currently out of car with 1 piston out for inspection. I have access to a set of Jim Lewis heads and intake that have a few passes(will include phone number with purchase) With right piston/ring combo and those heads and intake it should run .7-.8 under

Ron Middleton · 07-09-2015, 05:02 PM

Dustin. I looked at the ad myself and without a doubt it looks like a good base car with a motor that needs someone who knows what they doing to update and refresh. To get someone that can build a top shelf motor from carb to pan will take you a little more that $10k. Fixing the one with the car probably will save you a lot of money. It still won't be cheap. Not sure how sorted out the car is but it should be a pretty good car to start. Just realize it will take a lot of work and some money to get it competitive.

dustin423k · 07-09-2015, 05:44 PM

Ron,

Thanks alot for the input and noted to be competitive will take $10k or more to get the right person to build the right motor.

It would probaly be a good idea to see what cars in division 4 run G/H/I and go from there.

Chris1529 · 07-09-2015, 05:45 PM

Pick a race track that both of you can get to relatively easily. You take an empty trailer.
Ask him to bring the car and meet you at a track and make a pass. If it runs what he says it will run, then after the run, have him pull it up on your trailer and make the deal.
That's about the only way I would buy a race car. The pistons and rings aren't going to keep it from running that well.

Mark Yacavone · 07-09-2015, 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris1529

Pick a race track that both of you can get to relatively easily. You take an empty trailer.
Ask him to bring the car and meet you at a track and make a pass. If it runs what he says it will run, then after the run, have him pull it up on your trailer and make the deal.
That's about the only way I would buy a race car. The pistons and rings aren't going to keep it from running that well.

He is not selling a running car.

HR9121 · 07-09-2015, 06:46 PM

I would think with the stuff he has in place already you could make this car competitive for a lot less than 10k.

Chris1529 · 07-09-2015, 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone

He is not selling a running car.

Then I would take a pass on it until the seller gets it running. It sounds to me like they buyer is trying to get into stock eliminator. Its too easy for someone to take all the "good stuff" out of or off a the car to sell especially when its not running. What about the brakes, line lock, fuel pump, rear end? It the buyer buys a pig in a poke, then that might discourage him from continuing as it is a challenge as it is.

I stand by my original statement. Buy the car after you see it make a pass so you know what you are getting. If you don't believe me, look at the I/SA chasing the dream thread in the build section.

Rory McNeil · 07-09-2015, 10:53 PM

The fact that the engine is out of the car with a piston removed likely will preclude the car for running well!

07-09-2015, 04:30 PM	#1
dustin423k Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Dallas / Ft Worth Posts: 13 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	New to Stock - Buying an 85 Camaro G/H/I?? Hey Guys, Looking for some guidance and input on looking to buy this car from a Division 2 race Jamie Hairrington. Not sure if he is ever on this site but has anyone seen this car and know what it is capable of, legal for NHRA? etc. He has told me up front that he has not entered in an NHRA event because they have 2 other cars and time is spent on those cars which I fully believe him, just want to get some input on what this car would run or what it would take to run G/SA? Engine is a 307 block sleeved Thanks in advance, Dustin Vassar

07-09-2015, 04:39 PM	#2
James Perrone VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: LONG ISLAND N.Y. Posts: 1,669 Likes: 3,359 Liked 1,804 Times in 422 Posts	Re: New to Stock - Buying an 85 Camaro G/H/I?? A. Time slip would help __________________ james perrone 1290 STK

07-09-2015, 05:01 PM	#3
dustin423k Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Dallas / Ft Worth Posts: 13 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: New to Stock - Buying an 85 Camaro G/H/I?? ^^ Agreed. Dont think it has made a full pass at full potential because of the wrong piston rings being in it. "I pulled motor and found wrong ring combo. Could use "better" pistons and ring combo. Has latest bullet cam, Sherman style lifters, roller rockers. Comes with fresh Boburka carb. Also has fresh th350 and converter. Fresh wiring, arc switch panel, cheetah shifter, new gauges, and brand new camlock belts. Car will pass tech. 12 bolt 5.13 gear All S&W torque arm and frame connectors Strange SA rear shocks Fresh th350 trans and converter Engine is a 307 block sleeved Everything is fresh but has older TRW pistons and wrong ring combo. Motor is currently out of car with 1 piston out for inspection. I have access to a set of Jim Lewis heads and intake that have a few passes(will include phone number with purchase) With right piston/ring combo and those heads and intake it should run .7-.8 under

07-09-2015, 05:02 PM	#4
Ron Middleton Member Join Date: Jan 1970 Location: Jackson, Ms. Posts: 350 Likes: 183 Liked 12 Times in 4 Posts	Re: New to Stock - Buying an 85 Camaro G/H/I?? Dustin. I looked at the ad myself and without a doubt it looks like a good base car with a motor that needs someone who knows what they doing to update and refresh. To get someone that can build a top shelf motor from carb to pan will take you a little more that $10k. Fixing the one with the car probably will save you a lot of money. It still won't be cheap. Not sure how sorted out the car is but it should be a pretty good car to start. Just realize it will take a lot of work and some money to get it competitive. __________________ #4892 J/SA. We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence then, is not an act, but a habit.” - Aristotle

07-09-2015, 05:44 PM	#5
dustin423k Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Dallas / Ft Worth Posts: 13 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: New to Stock - Buying an 85 Camaro G/H/I?? Ron, Thanks alot for the input and noted to be competitive will take $10k or more to get the right person to build the right motor. It would probaly be a good idea to see what cars in division 4 run G/H/I and go from there.

07-09-2015, 05:45 PM	#6
Chris1529 VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: West Virginia Posts: 1,366 Likes: 6 Liked 70 Times in 29 Posts	Re: New to Stock - Buying an 85 Camaro G/H/I?? Pick a race track that both of you can get to relatively easily. You take an empty trailer. Ask him to bring the car and meet you at a track and make a pass. If it runs what he says it will run, then after the run, have him pull it up on your trailer and make the deal. That's about the only way I would buy a race car. The pistons and rings aren't going to keep it from running that well. __________________ Chris Bowman The Mountain State Mustang 1984 Mustang GT350

07-09-2015, 06:46 PM	#8
HR9121 Live Reporter Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: New Bern, NC Posts: 3,467 Likes: 146 Liked 3,363 Times in 731 Posts	Re: New to Stock - Buying an 85 Camaro G/H/I?? I would think with the stuff he has in place already you could make this car competitive for a lot less than 10k. __________________ James Williamson W200 J/SA. SS/JA

07-09-2015, 10:53 PM	#10
Rory McNeil VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: from Vancouver BC Canada, now in Nova Scotia Posts: 1,311 Likes: 315 Liked 1,102 Times in 301 Posts	Re: New to Stock - Buying an 85 Camaro G/H/I?? The fact that the engine is out of the car with a piston removed likely will preclude the car for running well! __________________ NHRA 6390 STK M/S 85 Mustang