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Old 01-08-2012, 10:05 PM   #61
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My driver is my son. He has won multiple divisonal championships in nhra super street. Now is a multiple champion in nhra brackets. All i'm sayin is if there is a race to run friday saturday or sunday he is double entered and going rounds. He will take .006 thou stripe and make racers who run .009 slow look very very bad!! Luke and scotty do tha same on a weekly basis...just sayin...
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Old 01-08-2012, 10:11 PM   #62
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What would your driver do if his car (to run the number) was 60 mph faster (plus giving the car 4+ seconds) than the car in the other lane to run the number? Do you think he could take 6 inches or a foot of stripe?
I'm not sure Slate could do that consistently. LOL
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Old 01-08-2012, 10:30 PM   #63
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My driver is my son. He has won multiple divisonal championships in nhra super street. Now is a multiple champion in nhra brackets. All i'm sayin is if there is a race to run friday saturday or sunday he is double entered and going rounds. He will take .006 thou stripe and make racers who run .009 slow look very very bad!! Luke and scotty do tha same on a weekly basis...just sayin...
I know why you reference the 10.90 et now.

Driving in Super Street, you have the luxury of knowing if you opponent was late or not because you both leave at the same time. Try leaving 1.32, maybe even 3.32 seconds before or after your opponent, it's not so easy to judge what kind of a light your opponent had. Trust me, if you leave 3.32 seconds after me, you are not "gona hang a fender on me and ride me all the way down".

I am going to guess that just like Super Street, you run your throttle stop in brackets as well. Stock and Super Stock do not have throttle stops.

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Old 01-08-2012, 10:32 PM   #64
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What would your driver do if his car (to run the number) was 60 mph faster (plus giving the car 4+ seconds) than the car in the other lane to run the number?

Dial up .5?


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Old 01-08-2012, 11:24 PM   #65
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This is a subject that is really easy to overthink. Think about it too much, and you will lose.

A wise ex-Super Stock racer once told me "It's easy, just cut a .500 light and run exactly what you dial. You will win every time!"

There you go! Haha!
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Old 01-09-2012, 12:06 AM   #66
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Dice,
You still did'nt answer the question.
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Old 01-09-2012, 12:09 AM   #67
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This is funny maybe i can do the I have a DREAM speach on how to race another racer?
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Old 01-09-2012, 09:44 AM   #68
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From people I know, if they horn toot about packing numbers they usually dont.. Usually the guy that doesnt say anything is the guy that knows the game..

Do what works for you dont try to follow the leader.. I know some guys that dial there stuff and win regularly, and I know guys that go .20's in time runs and never dial faster than a .35 in eliminations and win regularly..

Chip I would do what you do it apparently works you win on a regular basis!
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Old 01-09-2012, 10:49 AM   #69
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I agree with what Dice is saying. The "cut a light and run your number" isn't an instant win against some of the really good drivers. It's much more difficult to win in any class these days, so the driver's theory is to set up real tight on the tree and make it close at the other end. So in theory, if you cut a light like a .007 and run dead on 7 you have a real nice .014 package. But when the black and decker tree wreckers like Biondo or Bertozzi leave with a .005, they have .009 to get in on you and they are good enough drivers to do that on a regular basis. They don't do it everytime, but these strategies dramatically improve their odds of the win light coming on. They are risking a red light and risk giving it back on the other end, but they are racing to win, not playing it safe so they won't lose.

Also, the more you practice hitting the tree that hard and driving the stripe that hard, the better at it you get.

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Old 01-09-2012, 11:22 AM   #70
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The "cut a light and run your number" isn't an instant win against some of the really good drivers. It's much more difficult to win in any class these days, so the driver's theory is to set up real tight on the tree and make it close at the other end. So in theory, if you cut a light like a .007 and run dead on 7 you have a real nice .014 package. But when the black and decker tree wreckers like Biondo or Bertozzi leave with a .005, they have .009 to get in on you and they are good enough drivers to do that on a regular basis. They don't do it everytime, but these strategies dramatically improve their odds of the win light coming on.
Manny's dead-on.

It's more likely that the top tier drivers are going to be .007 take 7 than it is for Joe Average to to be .007 dead-on 7. It's more likely for a top tier driver playing dialer to be .007 dead-on 7 than it is for Joe Average trying to hold and be .007 take 7. Regardless of strategy, the game still favors the better driver statistically. Does the little guy throw out a great package sometimes and beat them? Absolutely. It happens. What's the percentage chance of that happening? Does the top tier driver give one away sometimes? Absolutely. It happens. What's the percentage chance of that happening?

Increasing your knowledge base will improve your chances... regardless of what your skill level is now. Any of the schools, live or online, are probably cheaper than the next .03 you find in your car. Learn the skills that will turn on a few more win lights, and you'll make more money, which you can *then* go buy the latest go-fast parts with!



50 passes in a weekend = double-entered and run yourself in the finals every day, Fri-Sat-Sun. Although obviously exaggerated, there is a lesson to be taken from it... seat time is invaluable. It's going to be tougher for anyone to race 8-12 times a year and be competitive against someone running 37 weekends a year, many of which include multiple races and/or entries.
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