Sorenson 1.408 under at Boise - Page 6

Chuck Norton · 05-03-2009, 09:22 AM

I have been told that their car had an iron-head 427. A 1969 Camaro with iron block and GM factory heads is rated at 425 horsepower as of today. The classification guide shows that the class HP/weight factor is currently at 8.06 with an automatic transmission. As a natural "A" car it can legally run "B." The shipping weight is 3425#. By my calculations, in B/SA, it would weigh (425 x 8.5) 3612# plus the driver weight for a sticker weight of 3780#.

Three additional horsepower on the combination would bring the HP/weight factor below 8.0 and out of the reach of B/SA.

c

Mickey Whaley · 05-03-2009, 10:58 AM

thanks chuck

Larry Hill · 05-03-2009, 01:42 PM

If he did pull the weight out of the car to make it too light in an attempt void the run, the run of 1.408 under should be used by the AHFS to adjust the power on that combination.

As for time off for bad behavior, I'm glad that is not my decision !!!!!!

Mike Hering · 05-03-2009, 06:47 PM

I was standing at the scales, as well as a jent named john hill, waiting to get our fuel cups, when Hal Sorenson pulled on the scales, old guy. I saw no water being drained out. Incidently, my previous run weight was 3685, I took out 18#, and my current weight was 3650, obviously a scale issue. Several other cars noted weight disparity to previous runs. You should examine your information source a bit more closely before makine these kinds of claims.

Neil Smedley · 05-03-2009, 06:57 PM

Mike........Is your middle name RED as in `RED HERRING`

Mike Hering · 05-03-2009, 07:27 PM

I saw what I saw, posted the truth. You can kiss my *** with your smart comment.

larry dowty · 05-03-2009, 07:36 PM

John hills engine is built buy the sorenson bros.is that truth? and boy what a time for the scales to malfunction LOL.

Neil Smedley · 05-03-2009, 07:46 PM

Mike...that kiss my *** reply sure adds a bunch of credibilty to your observations...LOL....Just a wild guess here....will the outcome of this incident possibly have an effect on your combo ??

OLD GUY · 05-03-2009, 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Hering

I was standing at the scales, as well as a jent named john hill, waiting to get our fuel cups, when Hal Sorenson pulled on the scales, old guy. I saw no water being drained out. Incidently, my previous run weight was 3685, I took out 18#, and my current weight was 3650, obviously a scale issue. Several other cars noted weight disparity to previous runs. You should examine your information source a bit more closely before makine these kinds of claims.

Mike,
It's a real funny thing that my sources (4 of them) must have been standing right next to you. You guys were practically rubbing shoulders. They watched the whole thing unfold and pointed it out to Steve Dimbo the scale operator. Can you explain the water under Hal's car and the wet towels being removed. I suspect you didn't see those either. My sources are fellow racers and they didn't have any scale trouble. I believe the Sorenson Bros built John Hills motor so it would be natural for him to defend Hal. This whole deal is no different than when Fred Hensen went 1.40 under at Belle Rose 2 years ago on a red light run. He didn't get the opportunity to come up light at the scales and Monday morning he got 15 HP. The AHFS rule says you go 1.40 under the sea level index you get 3.25% HP. Way to many people saw what happened for anybody to deny it.

Dave

Another Friendly Racer · 05-04-2009, 08:27 AM

So if Sorenson was supposedly so scared of his -1.40 run that he felt the need to drain water, take out weight, etc etc that he is accused of, would'nt you think he would slow his car down?! No, he went right back up there and made a -1.39 blast , just thousandths from triggering the -1.40 AGAIN. If the orignial poster had a problem with Sorenson, take it up with him and NHRA at the track, don't go flame a guy behind a key board.

05-03-2009, 09:22 AM	#51
Chuck Norton Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Covina, CA Posts: 474 Likes: 106 Liked 89 Times in 19 Posts	Re: Sorenson 1.408 under at Boise I have been told that their car had an iron-head 427. A 1969 Camaro with iron block and GM factory heads is rated at 425 horsepower as of today. The classification guide shows that the class HP/weight factor is currently at 8.06 with an automatic transmission. As a natural "A" car it can legally run "B." The shipping weight is 3425#. By my calculations, in B/SA, it would weigh (425 x 8.5) 3612# plus the driver weight for a sticker weight of 3780#. Three additional horsepower on the combination would bring the HP/weight factor below 8.0 and out of the reach of B/SA. c

05-03-2009, 10:58 AM	#52
Mickey Whaley VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 1,220 Likes: 0 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Sorenson 1.408 under at Boise thanks chuck

05-03-2009, 01:42 PM	#53
Larry Hill Live Reporter Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Hickory, Ky Posts: 10,637 Likes: 1,929 Liked 10,696 Times in 2,227 Posts	Re: Sorenson 1.408 under at Boise If he did pull the weight out of the car to make it too light in an attempt void the run, the run of 1.408 under should be used by the AHFS to adjust the power on that combination. As for time off for bad behavior, I'm glad that is not my decision !!!!!! __________________ IHM Used Parts https://ihmusedparts.com 888-821-1817 Last edited by Larry Hill; 05-03-2009 at 04:38 PM.

05-03-2009, 06:47 PM	#54
Mike Hering Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 2 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Sorenson 1.408 under at Boise I was standing at the scales, as well as a jent named john hill, waiting to get our fuel cups, when Hal Sorenson pulled on the scales, old guy. I saw no water being drained out. Incidently, my previous run weight was 3685, I took out 18#, and my current weight was 3650, obviously a scale issue. Several other cars noted weight disparity to previous runs. You should examine your information source a bit more closely before makine these kinds of claims.

05-03-2009, 06:57 PM	#55
Neil Smedley Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 163 Likes: 32 Liked 22 Times in 7 Posts	Re: Sorenson 1.408 under at Boise Mike........Is your middle name RED as in `RED HERRING`

05-03-2009, 07:27 PM	#56
Mike Hering Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 2 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Sorenson 1.408 under at Boise I saw what I saw, posted the truth. You can kiss my *** with your smart comment.

05-03-2009, 07:36 PM	#57
larry dowty Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: chewelah wa Posts: 283 Likes: 0 Liked 11 Times in 4 Posts	Re: Sorenson 1.408 under at Boise John hills engine is built buy the sorenson bros.is that truth? and boy what a time for the scales to malfunction LOL. __________________ larry dowty 6388 SS

05-03-2009, 07:46 PM	#58
Neil Smedley Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 163 Likes: 32 Liked 22 Times in 7 Posts	Re: Sorenson 1.408 under at Boise Mike...that kiss my *** reply sure adds a bunch of credibilty to your observations...LOL....Just a wild guess here....will the outcome of this incident possibly have an effect on your combo ??

05-04-2009, 08:27 AM	#60
Another Friendly Racer Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 152 Likes: 0 Liked 19 Times in 6 Posts	Re: Sorenson 1.408 under at Boise So if Sorenson was supposedly so scared of his -1.40 run that he felt the need to drain water, take out weight, etc etc that he is accused of, would'nt you think he would slow his car down?! No, he went right back up there and made a -1.39 blast , just thousandths from triggering the -1.40 AGAIN. If the orignial poster had a problem with Sorenson, take it up with him and NHRA at the track, don't go flame a guy behind a key board.