JP1738's Stocker and S/G car - Page 5

JP1738 · 03-04-2024, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by MikeMoller

What track are you testing at?

I test at Shadyside Dragway

JP1738 · 03-04-2024, 10:49 AM

Well, crap. Don't have any pics to speak of but the Baby Gators was pretty much a disaster. I did manage to get qualified and run under the index, but that's where my luck ran out. It appears that after the heads and intake were surfaced, it moved the distributor too low onto the oil pump and was bound up. Over time it shifted the timing and kept slowing the car down. It had maybe only 28* or so by the time I ran first round and I had no idea. I could only go 13.13 first round. Drove all day back home Saturday and took it testing Sunday to sort out the issue. Timing was one of the first thing I checked and realized it was extremely low. After reaching out to a few people I realized what was causing the issue, I tightened the distributor back down and added a few extra gaskets and it went right back to printing tickets. In 3 runs at Shadyside on Sunday it moved .007 to 60ft and ran 8.00 and 8.02 on the two runs I ran it to the finish line. Dang this has been frustrating but I'm working on it.

I have pulled the plug on the Gator nats and withdrawn. I just can't afford to take my stuff back down there again this week, and so far, the state hasn't been terribly good to me. I'm going to go to my local bracket track and footfeed the stocker to get some more seat-time and continue improving the car. I'll be back to class racing at SGMP in a few weeks, looking forward to it already.

I learned a ton while down in Gainesville this weekend. I got a lot of help and advice from Tim Stickles who helped me go through my Q-jet and show me what did what and how to adjust/change/tune it better in the future. He even loaned me a different hanger and some secondary rods to try. Super awesome guy in person and extremely generous with knowledge and parts. I hate the adversity he faced as his SS car kicked the rods and his stocker was having consistency issues along with mine.

MR DERBY CITY · 03-04-2024, 02:44 PM

Sorry to hear man, just remember….a distributor with an adjustable collar can be your friend …..

Signman · 03-05-2024, 11:25 AM

As my Dad always told me: "It Pays to Learn"

Larry Hill · 03-07-2024, 10:22 AM

It’s great to know that you have found the ”Speed Secret”, hard, smart work!
You’ll have it flying in no time. Good luck.

doglover44 · 03-07-2024, 02:32 PM

Sucks you had to miss the Gators but keep working at it !

Roy Kinslow · 03-10-2024, 08:35 AM

I noticed your PVC valve plumbing. I believe its preferred to have it pull vacuum at the carb base. The way it appears you have it , it is possible for it to lean the mixture only on one or two cylinders. At the carb base it will be more evenly distributed. Might show up more at idle. It's a vacuum leak. Of course your results may vary. Good luck 🙂

JP1738 · 03-11-2024, 09:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roy Kinslow

I noticed your PVC valve plumbing. I believe its preferred to have it pull vacuum at the carb base. The way it appears you have it , it is possible for it to lean the mixture only on one or two cylinders. At the carb base it will be more evenly distributed. Might show up more at idle. It's a vacuum leak. Of course your results may vary. Good luck 🙂

My carb is not fitted with a vacuum tube at the base right now. I'll look into it when I pull it off again to see if I can see where one is meant to be and re-plumb it if possible.

JP1738 · 03-25-2024, 10:18 AM

I did not really come close to winning this race, BUT I FINALLY GOT SOME ELECTRICITY IN MY LANE! Made it to 10 cars on Sunday for by far my best appearance with a long roof. A huge thank you to all the people who have helped me with this car, turns out it’s pretty good when it doesn’t break! Qualified in the #37 position out of 40 cars with a -.19 under run. Once the weather swung, I dialed about -.30 under, so I'm still comfortably in and race-able. Had an unfortunate break-out when the car picked up a few numbers through the middle third round, but not a bad showing at all and I was making the right decision at the stripe, just didn't do enough quitting.

Keith 944 · 03-25-2024, 07:03 PM

Watched the runs, pretty impressive. Believe you have a winnable ride. Good luck in the rest of season

03-04-2024, 10:49 AM	#42
JP1738 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2024 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 535 Likes: 1,506 Liked 1,125 Times in 314 Posts	Re: JP1738's Stocker and S/G car Well, crap. Don't have any pics to speak of but the Baby Gators was pretty much a disaster. I did manage to get qualified and run under the index, but that's where my luck ran out. It appears that after the heads and intake were surfaced, it moved the distributor too low onto the oil pump and was bound up. Over time it shifted the timing and kept slowing the car down. It had maybe only 28* or so by the time I ran first round and I had no idea. I could only go 13.13 first round. Drove all day back home Saturday and took it testing Sunday to sort out the issue. Timing was one of the first thing I checked and realized it was extremely low. After reaching out to a few people I realized what was causing the issue, I tightened the distributor back down and added a few extra gaskets and it went right back to printing tickets. In 3 runs at Shadyside on Sunday it moved .007 to 60ft and ran 8.00 and 8.02 on the two runs I ran it to the finish line. Dang this has been frustrating but I'm working on it. I have pulled the plug on the Gator nats and withdrawn. I just can't afford to take my stuff back down there again this week, and so far, the state hasn't been terribly good to me. I'm going to go to my local bracket track and footfeed the stocker to get some more seat-time and continue improving the car. I'll be back to class racing at SGMP in a few weeks, looking forward to it already. I learned a ton while down in Gainesville this weekend. I got a lot of help and advice from Tim Stickles who helped me go through my Q-jet and show me what did what and how to adjust/change/tune it better in the future. He even loaned me a different hanger and some secondary rods to try. Super awesome guy in person and extremely generous with knowledge and parts. I hate the adversity he faced as his SS car kicked the rods and his stocker was having consistency issues along with mine. __________________ Dawson Pauley #2827 N/SA 1980 Malibu SW 2S 305/180 #2827 S/ST 1978 Mazda RX7 w/ 383 sbc/glide

03-04-2024, 02:44 PM	#43
MR DERBY CITY VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Derby City, USA Posts: 3,607 Likes: 1,067 Liked 7,780 Times in 1,494 Posts	Re: JP1738's Stocker and S/G car Sorry to hear man, just remember….a distributor with an adjustable collar can be your friend …..

03-05-2024, 11:25 AM	#44
Signman Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lower Slower Delaware Posts: 535 Likes: 22 Liked 269 Times in 99 Posts	Re: JP1738's Stocker and S/G car As my Dad always told me: "It Pays to Learn" __________________ Frank Ferrucci I/SA 1271 "Be Thankful for the Gifts You are Given"

03-07-2024, 10:22 AM	#45
Larry Hill Live Reporter Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Hickory, Ky Posts: 10,610 Likes: 1,896 Liked 10,647 Times in 2,207 Posts	Re: JP1738's Stocker and S/G car It’s great to know that you have found the ”Speed Secret”, hard, smart work! You’ll have it flying in no time. Good luck. __________________ IHM Used Parts https://ihmusedparts.com 888-821-1817

03-07-2024, 02:32 PM	#46
doglover44 VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: New Carlisle OH Posts: 1,379 Likes: 4 Liked 480 Times in 223 Posts	Re: JP1738's Stocker and S/G car Sucks you had to miss the Gators but keep working at it ! __________________ Jake Biermann

03-10-2024, 08:35 AM	#47
Roy Kinslow Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2019 Posts: 45 Likes: 55 Liked 127 Times in 27 Posts	Re: JP1738's Stocker and S/G car I noticed your PVC valve plumbing. I believe its preferred to have it pull vacuum at the carb base. The way it appears you have it , it is possible for it to lean the mixture only on one or two cylinders. At the carb base it will be more evenly distributed. Might show up more at idle. It's a vacuum leak. Of course your results may vary. Good luck 🙂

03-25-2024, 10:18 AM	#49
JP1738 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2024 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 535 Likes: 1,506 Liked 1,125 Times in 314 Posts	Re: JP1738's Stocker and S/G car I did not really come close to winning this race, BUT I FINALLY GOT SOME ELECTRICITY IN MY LANE! Made it to 10 cars on Sunday for by far my best appearance with a long roof. A huge thank you to all the people who have helped me with this car, turns out it’s pretty good when it doesn’t break! Qualified in the #37 position out of 40 cars with a -.19 under run. Once the weather swung, I dialed about -.30 under, so I'm still comfortably in and race-able. Had an unfortunate break-out when the car picked up a few numbers through the middle third round, but not a bad showing at all and I was making the right decision at the stripe, just didn't do enough quitting. __________________ Dawson Pauley #2827 N/SA 1980 Malibu SW 2S 305/180 #2827 S/ST 1978 Mazda RX7 w/ 383 sbc/glide

03-25-2024, 07:03 PM	#50
Keith 944 VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Dela-where? Posts: 2,192 Likes: 1,158 Liked 1,872 Times in 576 Posts	Re: JP1738's Stocker and S/G car Watched the runs, pretty impressive. Believe you have a winnable ride. Good luck in the rest of season __________________ KEITH MAYERS 2-1/2 X somebody Still many X nobody