Jerry Emmons speaks his mind - Page 5

MR DERBY CITY · 03-11-2017, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Dan Wilson

It appears to me that racers are dialing soft with the full intension of hitting the breaks at the end of the run. If that is the plan then plan on getting tossed. They should dial closer to what they can run so this is not an issue. They know what their car will run.

Dan

Gee, you are very astute.

Frank Castros · 03-11-2017, 06:28 PM

Could it be that Jerry is being used as an example because of his prominent stature to send a message that excessive braking will longer be tolerated?
It certainly has gotten the attention of this forum.

Jeff Stout · 03-11-2017, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Dan Wilson

It appears to me that racers are dialing soft with the full intension of hitting the breaks at the end of the run. If that is the plan then plan on getting tossed. They should dial closer to what they can run so this is not an issue. They know what their car will run.

Dan

Driver can dial whatever he or she wants under index. That's the rule. No rule stating you have to run what you know your car will run. Its to bad though as AHFS would work very quickly.

Buick6 · 03-11-2017, 07:45 PM

Speaking as an outsider looking to get in the game, I have to say it is a shame when any drag race is won by "sandbagging" in order to cross the finish line hard on the brakes instead of at full throttle. Seems like that nonsense should be left to the bracket racers. How boring for the spectators (what spectators?). But as has been stated, the "top notch drivers" have figured this out and will continue to win that way because the rules have allowed this to happen. Can't blame them for finding a way that works. Perhaps the fix opens up a bigger can of worms for NHRA to attempt to police. Maybe the name should be changed to "Brake Racing" instead of "Drag Racing".

4406mopar · 03-11-2017, 08:13 PM

Say what you want, driver was warned, driver continued, he got tossed.

Then states that they will not dictate his driving. Well they just did.

Lucky they let him win the winter nationals driving like that. Remember it's their game up to their discretion, states that in the rulebook.

Mark Yacavone · 03-11-2017, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Tony Janes

That is how it works Dan with the top notch drivers.

Not so sure about that,Tony .
None of the guys I hang around with, hold back tenths of a second.
They seem to do alright.

Coleydog · 03-11-2017, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Buick6

Speaking as an outsider looking to get in the game, I have to say it is a shame when any drag race is won by "sandbagging" in order to cross the finish line hard on the brakes instead of at full throttle. Seems like that nonsense should be left to the bracket racers. How boring for the spectators (what spectators?). But as has been stated, the "top notch drivers" have figured this out and will continue to win that way because the rules have allowed this to happen. Can't blame them for finding a way that works. Perhaps the fix opens up a bigger can of worms for NHRA to attempt to police. Maybe the name should be changed to "Brake Racing" instead of "Drag Racing".

Back to dial in racing 101, the other driver has NOTHING to do with whether you win or not. YOU cut the light and run dead on your dial, the other driver can slide or whatever, he can't beat you. He CAN make it easy (bad light) or hard (better light than you) but that's it. So know your car and dial it right. He's able to do his thing because the other driver can't drive.

Buick6 · 03-11-2017, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Coleydog

Back to dial in racing 101, the other driver has NOTHING to do with whether you win or not. YOU cut the light and run dead on your dial, the other driver can slide or whatever, he can't beat you. He CAN make it easy (bad light) or hard (better light than you) but that's it. So know your car and dial it right. He's able to do his thing because the other driver can't drive.

My post was meant to point out that something is basically wrong when part of a driver's drag racing strategy to win is to slam on the brakes. I have won races off the throttle, but not on the brakes.

Coleydog · 03-11-2017, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Buick6

My post was meant to point out that something is basically wrong when part of a driver's drag racing strategy to win is to slam on the brakes. I have won races off the throttle, but not on the brakes.

I agree with what you say. Jerry's stratagy is easy in a way, just cut a great light and end up in front at the stripe. No need for weather stations, spun off the line, air changes, temp changes, track from day to day, morning runs, nite runs, it eliminates all the variables that effects dial ins.

HR9121 · 03-11-2017, 10:34 PM

What's really alarming about this thread is all the dumbass comments about being made to dial honest and hold it wide open at the finish line. Of that's the way you race that's fine! Just don't worry about the other no need to even look over there. Keep hitting the tree and dialing it as hard as you can lol. Here's a clue for you next time you spin a few hundreds or miss your shift by a couple hundreds, good luck getting your **** loaded up because you just lost, you ain't got no chance at all against a guy like Emmons or any other good driver for that matter!!!!!

03-11-2017, 06:28 PM	#42
Frank Castros VIP Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: The Lowcountry. Posts: 2,984 Likes: 2,610 Liked 2,737 Times in 965 Posts	Re: Jerry Emmons speaks his mind Could it be that Jerry is being used as an example because of his prominent stature to send a message that excessive braking will longer be tolerated? It certainly has gotten the attention of this forum.

03-11-2017, 07:45 PM	#44
Buick6 Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Florence, SC Posts: 84 Likes: 16 Liked 16 Times in 7 Posts	Re: Jerry Emmons speaks his mind Speaking as an outsider looking to get in the game, I have to say it is a shame when any drag race is won by "sandbagging" in order to cross the finish line hard on the brakes instead of at full throttle. Seems like that nonsense should be left to the bracket racers. How boring for the spectators (what spectators?). But as has been stated, the "top notch drivers" have figured this out and will continue to win that way because the rules have allowed this to happen. Can't blame them for finding a way that works. Perhaps the fix opens up a bigger can of worms for NHRA to attempt to police. Maybe the name should be changed to "Brake Racing" instead of "Drag Racing". Last edited by Buick6; 03-11-2017 at 08:06 PM.

03-11-2017, 08:13 PM	#45
4406mopar Member Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 233 Likes: 168 Liked 120 Times in 53 Posts	Re: Jerry Emmons speaks his mind Say what you want, driver was warned, driver continued, he got tossed. Then states that they will not dictate his driving. Well they just did. Lucky they let him win the winter nationals driving like that. Remember it's their game up to their discretion, states that in the rulebook.

03-11-2017, 10:34 PM	#50
HR9121 Live Reporter Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: New Bern, NC Posts: 3,467 Likes: 146 Liked 3,363 Times in 731 Posts	Re: Jerry Emmons speaks his mind What's really alarming about this thread is all the dumbass comments about being made to dial honest and hold it wide open at the finish line. Of that's the way you race that's fine! Just don't worry about the other no need to even look over there. Keep hitting the tree and dialing it as hard as you can lol. Here's a clue for you next time you spin a few hundreds or miss your shift by a couple hundreds, good luck getting your **** loaded up because you just lost, you ain't got no chance at all against a guy like Emmons or any other good driver for that matter!!!!! __________________ James Williamson W200 J/SA. SS/JA Last edited by HR9121; 03-11-2017 at 11:52 PM.