Old vs New during rounds

[DonatoEng]

In all of these posts of new vs old performance, I have not seen one person mention AERODYMAMICS of the new vs old cars.
If new vs old engines and HP were all that mattered, then why are almost all of the SS/GT cars new body vehicles with mostly old engines ?????

[442OLDS]

Originally Posted by DonatoEng

In all of these posts of new vs old performance, I have not seen one person mention AERODYMAMICS of the new vs old cars

I haven't heard TRACTION CONTROL mentioned either,to run dead on your dial.

[Michael Beard]

Originally Posted by 442OLDS

I haven't heard TRACTION CONTROL mentioned either,to run dead on your dial.

Traction control does not make a car run dead-on. It is really only useful in heads-up categories as a stopgap measure to minimize E.T. losses due to spinning. All traction control does is take power away, not promote consistency. Traction control would have to be coupled with a much more complicated system of track position sensors, run database calculations and brake control beyond the application of traction control, among other things, that are not components of EFI controllers. There are years and years of discussion threads all throughout the internet dedicated to the Matty Box.

[442OLDS]

Originally Posted by Michael Beard

Traction control does not make a car run dead-on. It is really only useful in heads-up categories as a stopgap measure to minimize E.T. losses due to spinning. All traction control does is take power away, not promote consistency. Traction control would have to be coupled with a much more complicated system of track position sensors, run database calculations and brake control beyond the application of traction control, among other things, that are not components of EFI controllers. There are years and years of discussion threads all throughout the internet dedicated to the Matty Box.

Oh,really.

Okay.

[Jim Caughlin]

On the subject of Matty boxes, traction control, etc, what happened to Top Fool that was posting on the site a few years ago and was going to present a car to NHRA and anyone else that was interested to show how electronic cheating was being done and undetectable. I've been sitting here waiting patiently for this no name guy to show us this new technology. Just joking...

Jim Caughlin
SS 6019

[Ed Wright]

Don't think traction control would help an SS car.

(If you need that, go see East Texas Racecars LOL)

Years ago when everybody thought Greg Anderson had it, before the rest discovered turning those 500" engines 10,000 RPM.

A well knows group from south Texas worked at the track with the guys from MSD to investigate that. Best they could do was to NOT slow the car down. LOL Many Div 4 guys know the story. Nothing there.

[Greg Hill]

For those of you that think it doesn't mater, Keith Lynch won round 2&3 heads up against older cars in a drag PAC challenger. That's a combination that's had around 120 hp added to it over the past three years.

[jmcarter]

Originally Posted by Greg Hill

For those of you that think it doesn't mater, Keith Lynch won round 2&3 heads up against older cars in a drag PAC challenger. That's a combination that's had around 120 hp added to it over the past three years.

He almost had another heads up in round 4. Just saying...

[Joseph Teuton]

Originally Posted by Greg Hill

For those of you that think it doesn't mater, Keith Lynch won round 2&3 heads up against older cars in a drag PAC challenger. That's a combination that's had around 120 hp added to it over the past three years.

Yes I seen that but I also see where in the 3rd round lynch was .032 on the tree and the other guy broke. Now, did he break cuz we was racing a drag pak? I doubt it, plus with lynch on the tree he would have been hard to beat anyways. Yes I know in the second he was like .100 on the tree but goes to show you that racing happens.

[Michael Beard]

If reaction times are related to HP factors, do I get HP added or taken off? I'm confused.