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Old 06-17-2009, 10:00 PM   #41
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Default Re: Whither the 425/427 decicion....

THIS IS SO SAD???

This is NHRA, nothing new

What is truely sad is the BOGUS ratings on these new cobra jets. NHRA could take 10hp off the camaro 427 and even Sorensen could not run with them
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Old 06-18-2009, 05:48 PM   #42
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I spoke with Bruce B. briefly while being tech'ed at Topeka, and asked what the final decision was in the Sorenson issue. His response was that since no NHRA official observed the dumping of water/weight, that there was nothing they could do about it. I hate to say it but this sets an ill advised precedent. Apparently you can do what you want with "weight adjustment", just don't let an official see you do it. Other racers watching you do it don't count. This may not be the last time we see something like this occur.
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Old 06-18-2009, 06:20 PM   #43
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Other racers watching you do it don't count.
This is a troublesome conundrum, to be sure.

I wonder how things would work out if the system allowed for official actions to be taken on the basis of hearsay evidence? Should it be possible for anyone to have another racer disqualified simply by pointing a finger and stating, "I accuse (insert name) of (insert infraction) and I would like to see him/her disqualified? Or, possibly a cabal of comprised of a group of racers could be required to accomplish the same thing? How about something like, three competitors in the same class could verbally accuse another racer and the the accused would be required to leave the premises within a stated period of time? Is it conceivable that we might hear an announcement on the P.A. system: "Would Anthony Fetch, Anthony Davis, Dan Fletcher and anyone named Biondo, Lang, or Emmons please report to the front gate with your rigs ASAP. You have been voted off the island!!" Any chance of that? Racers would never do anything like that, would they? Obviously, neither you nor I would ever do it but, what about.....?

It would seem to me that such a system could end up being an even smellier kettle of fish than the disregard some show for the AHFS. Let's consider a wider range of possibilities before we pull the trigger on yet another land mine.

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Old 06-18-2009, 06:24 PM   #44
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This is a troublesome conundrum, to be sure.

I wonder how things would work out if the system allowed for official actions to be taken on the basis of hearsay evidence? Should it be possible for anyone to have another racer disqualified simply by pointing a finger and stating, "I accuse (insert name) of (insert infraction) and I would like to see him/her disqualified? Or, possibly a cabal of comprised of a group of racers could be required to accomplish the same thing? How about something like, three competitors in the same class could verbally accuse another racer and the the accused would be required to leave the premises within a stated period of time? Is it conceivable that we might hear an announcement on the P.A. system: "Would Anthony Fetch, Anthony Davis, Dan Fletcher and anyone named Biondo, Lang, or Emmons please report to the front gate with your rigs ASAP. You have been voted off the island!!" Any chance of that? Racers would never do anything like that, would they? Obviously, neither you nor I would ever do it but, what about.....?

It would seem to me that such a system could end up being an even smellier kettle of fish than the disregard some show for the AHFS. Let's consider a wider range of possibilities before we pull the trigger on yet another land mine.

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Old 06-18-2009, 06:44 PM   #45
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Old 06-18-2009, 07:51 PM   #46
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People go to jail every day on hearsay evidence. If you see something that tech misses, are you suppose to look the other way,[ like wrong weight sticker or racer putting something in there gas? ] because they race a different class? I`ve seen both, Tom
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Old 06-19-2009, 06:27 AM   #47
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I spoke with Bruce B. briefly while being tech'ed at Topeka, and asked what the final decision was in the Sorenson issue. His response was that since no NHRA official observed the dumping of water/weight, that there was nothing they could do about it. I hate to say it but this sets an ill advised precedent. Apparently you can do what you want with "weight adjustment", just don't let an official see you do it. Other racers watching you do it don't count. This may not be the last time we see something like this occur.
Wowzers!!!!! What a double standard, one car bypasses the scales on a redlight losing pass and gets HP and the other is light at scales and doesn't. Yeah, that's setting a precedent for others to follow.
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Old 06-19-2009, 09:03 AM   #48
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the S/S cars were less radical than the stockers of today (no ported heads, water pump drives, etc.) at that time.
Terry, now THAT IS funny! I'm still laughing with tears in my eyes. Remember when Top Stock allowed ported heads in? Some picked up a bunch, some not at all if my memory is working. (You know we were older than than now and racing that old man's brand of car...)
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