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Old 05-15-2022, 06:01 PM   #31
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not going to say anything else about the subject, seems there are too many people of ignoring the rule, just like some of the judges in the country, IF YOU MURDER SOMEONE, DONT WORRY YOU GET BAIL, JUST DONT DO IT AGAIN....The rule has been in the books for years, any person with a combo that has been campaigning the same combo for years, KNOWS HOW FAST HE CAN GO---IN A HEADS UP RUN---- so next time a competitor is light at the scales, or fuel doesnt check, JUST WARN HIM, LET HIM GO, while the guy he outruns goes home......Maybe this is why some guys have left the sport, no tech, no teardown, and get away with breaking the rules with a warning, Use to be you got sidelined for a race or two for breaking the rules, now you get a lollipop and maybe told not to do it again....
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Old 05-15-2022, 06:06 PM   #32
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not going to say anything else about the subject, seems there are too many people of ignoring the rule, just like some of the judges in the country, IF YOU MURDER SOMEONE, DONT WORRY YOU GET BAIL, JUST DONT DO IT AGAIN....The rule has been in the books for years, any person with a combo that has been campaigning the same combo for years, KNOWS HOW FAST HE CAN GO---IN A HEADS UP RUN---- so next time a competitor is light at the scales, or fuel doesnt check, JUST WARN HIM, LET HIM GO, while the guy he outruns goes home......Maybe this is why some guys have left the sport, no tech, no teardown, and get away with breaking the rules with a warning, Use to be you got sidelined for a race or two for breaking the rules, now you get a lollipop and maybe told not to do it again....

Go ahead... please tell us how you really feel?
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Old 05-15-2022, 07:32 PM   #33
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Rules are clearly defined! Bill Hawk certainly knows how fast his car goes.

Maybe we should switch to everyone getting a trophy also!
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Old 05-16-2022, 05:26 PM   #34
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Its a safety issue and not a performance gain issue. Did it make the car faster ? NO Stern warning? YES.
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Old 05-16-2022, 06:31 PM   #35
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not going to say anything else about the subject, seems there are too many people of ignoring the rule, just like some of the judges in the country, IF YOU MURDER SOMEONE, DONT WORRY YOU GET BAIL, JUST DONT DO IT AGAIN....The rule has been in the books for years, any person with a combo that has been campaigning the same combo for years, KNOWS HOW FAST HE CAN GO---IN A HEADS UP RUN---- so next time a competitor is light at the scales, or fuel doesnt check, JUST WARN HIM, LET HIM GO, while the guy he outruns goes home......Maybe this is why some guys have left the sport, no tech, no teardown, and get away with breaking the rules with a warning, Use to be you got sidelined for a race or two for breaking the rules, now you get a lollipop and maybe told not to do it again....
Come get my Hemi Car,chase 'em down.Thanks
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Old 05-16-2022, 07:59 PM   #36
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Questions...Did the tower notify tech immediately that Hawk had made a 9 second run? Did the tower know that Hawk did not have safety equipment for a 9 second run therefore immediately notifying tech? Did tech immediately confront Hawk about the 9 second run without the proper safety equipment in use? Did Hawk's opponent immediately stop at the scales and notify tech that the proper safety equipment was not being used? Do the tech cards when entering online have built in limitations as to how quick a car can run based on safety equipment declared by the racer? Would the old way of "hands on pre-race tech" have warned Hawk he was not allowed to go quicker than 10.00 due to lack of proper safety equipment?
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Yeah, I think everyone should get a trophy.
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Old 05-17-2022, 02:00 AM   #38
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The 9.99/135 was in effect long before Mission. It's a general regulation.
I'm sure it was as a general saftey rule but I think Stock went strictly by it's own class rules then and was not affected by it, probably because Stockers in the nine's was rare for some time even after Bobby's run at mission.
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Old 05-17-2022, 12:11 PM   #39
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I'm sure it was as a general saftey rule but I think Stock went strictly by it's own class rules then and was not affected by it, probably because Stockers in the nine's was rare for some time even after Bobby's run at mission.
Since Jerry Valentine, the former NHRA Division 6 Tech Director, did the engine verification and certification of Bobby's engine when he ran in the 9's, did he warn Bobby he could not race the Camaro again until he complied with the safety requirements???
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Old 05-17-2022, 12:41 PM   #40
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9.99 and quicker is a safety rule there to protect you and others. There is no g r a y area. Should the rule be as TD/TS , you go into the five second barrier and you DQ , points and the race.
Some very valid points have been raised here by great racers and should be addressed.
There are a ton of A-C cars that can run Nines.
It’s not just the window net…..

No I am not singling out Mr Hawk.

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