Are COPO's, CJ's and Drag Packs good for our sport? - Page 4

ALMACK · 09-10-2013, 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by kdanner

And there is nothing in there from anyone else post 2008 either. Well the Camaro SS is in there for 2010, but it's factored nearly the same as a 427 COPO so it might as well not be there. Not a single other production car of any make in the guide after 2008.

^^ Looks like an opportunity for IHRA to take the lead here and allow (real) production cars. (6 or 8 cyl.)

Doug Iuliano · 09-10-2013, 10:41 AM

I think they are good for the sport. Ford has left the pro ranks to support Ford sportsman racers. If Chevrolet and Dodge do the same it will be a great thing.

What is so wrong to bring support $$$ to the sportsman classes?

The 69 Camaros still seem to be winning their share among all of the factory super cars!

Moving forward was never a bad thing for any sport.

bigshow2966 · 09-10-2013, 10:48 AM

Forgive me here, but I thought the big reason they never put a blower on the DP cars was because they couldn't keep the cranks in them?

Mike Pearson · 09-10-2013, 10:49 AM

They are great and do add to the sport. Just don't want to see it at the expense of the older cars as we are seeing it now. Just look at the Q sheets for Indy and you will see the effect of the new cars with the soft factors. The playing field needs to be level for all competitors. Then the class will be healthy.

joespanova · 09-10-2013, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike Pearson

They are great and do add to the sport. Just don't want to see it at the expense of the older cars as we are seeing it now. Just look at the Q sheets for Indy and you will see the effect of the new cars with the soft factors. The playing field needs to be level for all competitors. Then the class will be healthy.

This.......

and besides , the newer cars don't exhibit anywhere NEAR the "cool factor" of the older cars.

Dick Butler · 09-10-2013, 01:50 PM

A great thing for Drag Racing. Only weak link is like carb/charger/turbo cars should be in separate classes. Cannot judge Supercharged versus carb versus injected any more than old Injected motors versus carb motors....

Alan Roehrich · 09-10-2013, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by ALMACK

^^ Looks like an opportunity for IHRA to take the lead here and allow (real) production cars. (6 or 8 cyl.)

I don't think it is a question of NHRA allowing them. It's a matter of the OEM submitting the specifications for the guides. No OEM specifications, no place in the guides.

Dan Fahey · 09-10-2013, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Dick Butler

A great thing for Drag Racing. Only weak link is like carb/charger/turbo cars should be in separate classes. Cannot judge Supercharged versus carb versus injected any more than old Injected motors versus carb motors....

Good point..

Over the next few years it will get sorted out...

Like the Turbo Buick V6's.

Which still impress !

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sskwb · 09-10-2013, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Alan Roehrich

I don't think it is a question of NHRA allowing them. It's a matter of the OEM submitting the specifications for the guides. No OEM specifications, no place in the guides.

Any thoughts on. Why they will not supply OEM specs? I wouldn't think it would be hard to generate these specs and it certainly wouldn't hurt to put some standard GT,RT and SS out there on Sunday .

Jeff Teuton · 09-10-2013, 09:26 PM

I have wrote complete specs for showroom Challengers with stock motors. I think NHRA will implement them next year. Worked on this with Mopar and NHRA. Titles, VIN, and all the stuff.

09-10-2013, 10:41 AM	#32
Doug Iuliano Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Wilmington MA Posts: 9 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Are COPO's, CJ's and Drag Packs good for our sport? I think they are good for the sport. Ford has left the pro ranks to support Ford sportsman racers. If Chevrolet and Dodge do the same it will be a great thing. What is so wrong to bring support $$$ to the sportsman classes? The 69 Camaros still seem to be winning their share among all of the factory super cars! Moving forward was never a bad thing for any sport.

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bigshow2966 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: chicago Posts: 654 Likes: 672 Liked 180 Times in 55 Posts	Re: Are COPO's, CJ's and Drag Packs good for our sport? Forgive me here, but I thought the big reason they never put a blower on the DP cars was because they couldn't keep the cranks in them?

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Mike Pearson VIP Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 2,444 Likes: 613 Liked 1,917 Times in 575 Posts	Re: Are COPO's, CJ's and Drag Packs good for our sport? They are great and do add to the sport. Just don't want to see it at the expense of the older cars as we are seeing it now. Just look at the Q sheets for Indy and you will see the effect of the new cars with the soft factors. The playing field needs to be level for all competitors. Then the class will be healthy. __________________ Mike Pearson 2485 SS

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Dick Butler VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Richmond Indiana Posts: 1,196 Likes: 5 Liked 32 Times in 19 Posts	Re: Are COPO's, CJ's and Drag Packs good for our sport? A great thing for Drag Racing. Only weak link is like carb/charger/turbo cars should be in separate classes. Cannot judge Supercharged versus carb versus injected any more than old Injected motors versus carb motors....

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Jeff Teuton VIP Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Houma, LA Posts: 2,717 Likes: 2 Liked 325 Times in 50 Posts	Re: Are COPO's, CJ's and Drag Packs good for our sport? I have wrote complete specs for showroom Challengers with stock motors. I think NHRA will implement them next year. Worked on this with Mopar and NHRA. Titles, VIN, and all the stuff. __________________ Jeff Teuton 4022 STK