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Old 09-10-2013, 07:41 AM   #31
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And there is nothing in there from anyone else post 2008 either. Well the Camaro SS is in there for 2010, but it's factored nearly the same as a 427 COPO so it might as well not be there. Not a single other production car of any make in the guide after 2008.

^^ Looks like an opportunity for IHRA to take the lead here and allow (real) production cars. (6 or 8 cyl.)
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Old 09-10-2013, 10:41 AM   #32
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I think they are good for the sport. Ford has left the pro ranks to support Ford sportsman racers. If Chevrolet and Dodge do the same it will be a great thing.

What is so wrong to bring support $$$ to the sportsman classes?

The 69 Camaros still seem to be winning their share among all of the factory super cars!

Moving forward was never a bad thing for any sport.
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Old 09-10-2013, 10:48 AM   #33
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Forgive me here, but I thought the big reason they never put a blower on the DP cars was because they couldn't keep the cranks in them?
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Old 09-10-2013, 10:49 AM   #34
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They are great and do add to the sport. Just don't want to see it at the expense of the older cars as we are seeing it now. Just look at the Q sheets for Indy and you will see the effect of the new cars with the soft factors. The playing field needs to be level for all competitors. Then the class will be healthy.
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Old 09-10-2013, 01:14 PM   #35
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They are great and do add to the sport. Just don't want to see it at the expense of the older cars as we are seeing it now. Just look at the Q sheets for Indy and you will see the effect of the new cars with the soft factors. The playing field needs to be level for all competitors. Then the class will be healthy.
This.......

and besides , the newer cars don't exhibit anywhere NEAR the "cool factor" of the older cars.
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Old 09-10-2013, 01:50 PM   #36
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A great thing for Drag Racing. Only weak link is like carb/charger/turbo cars should be in separate classes. Cannot judge Supercharged versus carb versus injected any more than old Injected motors versus carb motors....
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Old 09-10-2013, 06:27 PM   #37
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^^ Looks like an opportunity for IHRA to take the lead here and allow (real) production cars. (6 or 8 cyl.)
I don't think it is a question of NHRA allowing them. It's a matter of the OEM submitting the specifications for the guides. No OEM specifications, no place in the guides.
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Old 09-10-2013, 06:57 PM   #38
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A great thing for Drag Racing. Only weak link is like carb/charger/turbo cars should be in separate classes. Cannot judge Supercharged versus carb versus injected any more than old Injected motors versus carb motors....
Good point..

Over the next few years it will get sorted out...

Like the Turbo Buick V6's.

Which still impress !

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I don't think it is a question of NHRA allowing them. It's a matter of the OEM submitting the specifications for the guides. No OEM specifications, no place in the guides.

Any thoughts on. Why they will not supply OEM specs? I wouldn't think it would be hard to generate these specs and it certainly wouldn't hurt to put some standard GT,RT and SS out there on Sunday .
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I have wrote complete specs for showroom Challengers with stock motors. I think NHRA will implement them next year. Worked on this with Mopar and NHRA. Titles, VIN, and all the stuff.
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