What's with the hood... - Page 4

chris3racing · 03-16-2013, 09:11 PM

This stuff just gives me a good laugh. With all of the good racing going on and we get another thread about some poor joe who has a hood that don't look right. I have been left out of super stock racing over the last few years over this same thing. My hood on a 340 Duster is not right. Please, help me understand how a hood, which never did much even back in those days is such a heartburn.

Ed Carpenter · 03-16-2013, 11:42 PM

Mr. Lux is a great guy. I can't imagine Dick trying to cheat on anything. I had clutch problems at a race one year and Dick walked in my trailer and said here put mine in and see what happens. I didnt even ask him. My .02

Gary Smith · 03-17-2013, 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeff Lee

Shelby is 289/306 not 289/271.

Sorry Jeff, couldn't remember if the R was 306. Just couldn't believe a 210 motor was being run with that body.

Gary Smith · 03-17-2013, 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by chris3racing

This stuff just gives me a good laugh. With all of the good racing going on and we get another thread about some poor joe who has a hood that don't look right. I have been left out of super stock racing over the last few years over this same thing. My hood on a 340 Duster is not right. Please, help me understand how a hood, which never did much even back in those days is such a heartburn.

It's a fresh air hood, and probably worth 2 tenths or more in good air. 30 years ago tech would not only toss you at the gate, you'd have others laughing for trying. I swear it's nothing against Dick Lux, in fact he's gonna make NHRA tech dept look like bigger buffoons than they already are.

Ed Wright · 03-17-2013, 09:09 AM

I can not imagine 2/10ths. I have taped over the scoops on my Trans Am "Ram Air" hood and it does not care. Runs exactly the same. That's why I find the "flat hood" and "Ram Air hood" HP factors being different for some LS1 engines being different kinda funny.

James Hill · 03-17-2013, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Gary Smith

It's a fresh air hood, and probably worth 2 tenths or more in good air. 30 years ago tech would not only toss you at the gate, you'd have others laughing for trying. I swear it's nothing against Dick Lux, in fact he's gonna make NHRA tech dept look like bigger buffoons than they already are.

The car doesn't have an air pan on it, if anything the hood is probably hurting it .05 by all the turbulence it is creating. I am sure if people that actually race in the class or could race in the class with him that have seen the hood thought there was some advantage to it something would have been said.

tommy d · 03-17-2013, 09:23 AM

I'm a Ford guy and I love Lux's Comet but.....If a Nova or Camaro racer showed up with a cowl hood on a combo that wasn't offered would no one complain?

X-TECH MAN · 03-17-2013, 10:01 AM

[QUOTE=boster;From what he told me the cars has raced NHRA for a very long time with at least 4 or 5 owners . He stated he had the 427 engine for the car but because of health reason he ran the 289 .
[/QUOTE]

He might have "A 427 at home" but the only way you can put an FE engine in a 64 or 65 Comet is to cut the shock towers completly out and plate over the hole left in the fender panel as the way the out sourcing compamies like Dearborn Steel Tubing did on the T-Bolts. Also a little known fact is the REAL A/FX 64 Comets had the firewall move back a slight amount to provide clearence for the 427 FE engines. This wasnt done on the T-Bolts. This shock tower treatment HAD to be done on the 427 T-Bolts and FX Comets if you wanted to run headers and change the spark plugs. Maybe he was going to put the 427 in the trunk? Dosent matter to me one way or the other as I think the hood LOOKS cool but the subject of the thread is "Thats not the way they came" and the hood is supposed to be steel.....not fiberglass. Good guy or not ! Maybe the scoop holes were added and placed into a steel hood ? A good body man can do wonders for looks. Like I said I dont care one way or the other but Im stating the facts. If you dont believe me ask Travis Miller.....not one of the west coast guys. Maybe Wesley will say someting next time you see him. I may be a bit older than Travis but he knows his Fords and is probibly the best tech guy NHRA still has. I worked with Marty Barrett and Greg X. in the old days and those guys knew their stuff and tought me a lot. Travis is an old fart like me and I lived thru that era and knew Ronnine Sox AND "Dyno" Don very well. We had many late evening BS sessions on their old cars and some of the "Tricks" they used to do before they passed away. I have LOTS of "Dyno" Don stories I could tell.

Ed Carpenter · 03-17-2013, 04:24 PM

If it's illegal then when Dick goes to the next race your at put the money up and protest him. Dick's a big boy he can take it.

Chuck Garey · 03-18-2013, 10:42 AM

Look under auto imagery, Mr Lux has been running that hood for a while now

03-16-2013, 09:11 PM	#31
chris3racing Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 528 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: What's with the hood... This stuff just gives me a good laugh. With all of the good racing going on and we get another thread about some poor joe who has a hood that don't look right. I have been left out of super stock racing over the last few years over this same thing. My hood on a 340 Duster is not right. Please, help me understand how a hood, which never did much even back in those days is such a heartburn.

03-16-2013, 11:42 PM	#32
Ed Carpenter Live Reporter Join Date: May 2006 Location: Dripping Springs, Tx Posts: 2,709 Likes: 186 Liked 520 Times in 132 Posts	Re: What's with the hood... Mr. Lux is a great guy. I can't imagine Dick trying to cheat on anything. I had clutch problems at a race one year and Dick walked in my trailer and said here put mine in and see what happens. I didnt even ask him. My .02 __________________ Ed Carpenter 2005 Chevy Cobalt A/SM Race Engine Development

03-17-2013, 09:09 AM	#35
Ed Wright Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Sand Springs, OK Posts: 8,132 Likes: 896 Liked 390 Times in 170 Posts	Re: What's with the hood... I can not imagine 2/10ths. I have taped over the scoops on my Trans Am "Ram Air" hood and it does not care. Runs exactly the same. That's why I find the "flat hood" and "Ram Air hood" HP factors being different for some LS1 engines being different kinda funny. __________________ Ed Wright 4156 SS/JA

03-17-2013, 09:23 AM	#37
tommy d Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Indiana Posts: 830 Likes: 1,613 Liked 359 Times in 135 Posts	Re: What's with the hood... I'm a Ford guy and I love Lux's Comet but.....If a Nova or Camaro racer showed up with a cowl hood on a combo that wasn't offered would no one complain?

03-17-2013, 10:01 AM	#38
X-TECH MAN Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Lake Placid, Florida Posts: 3,203 Likes: 1,047 Liked 235 Times in 110 Posts	Re: What's with the hood... [QUOTE=boster;From what he told me the cars has raced NHRA for a very long time with at least 4 or 5 owners . He stated he had the 427 engine for the car but because of health reason he ran the 289 . [/QUOTE] He might have "A 427 at home" but the only way you can put an FE engine in a 64 or 65 Comet is to cut the shock towers completly out and plate over the hole left in the fender panel as the way the out sourcing compamies like Dearborn Steel Tubing did on the T-Bolts. Also a little known fact is the REAL A/FX 64 Comets had the firewall move back a slight amount to provide clearence for the 427 FE engines. This wasnt done on the T-Bolts. This shock tower treatment HAD to be done on the 427 T-Bolts and FX Comets if you wanted to run headers and change the spark plugs. Maybe he was going to put the 427 in the trunk? Dosent matter to me one way or the other as I think the hood LOOKS cool but the subject of the thread is "Thats not the way they came" and the hood is supposed to be steel.....not fiberglass. Good guy or not ! Maybe the scoop holes were added and placed into a steel hood ? A good body man can do wonders for looks. Like I said I dont care one way or the other but Im stating the facts. If you dont believe me ask Travis Miller.....not one of the west coast guys. Maybe Wesley will say someting next time you see him. I may be a bit older than Travis but he knows his Fords and is probibly the best tech guy NHRA still has. I worked with Marty Barrett and Greg X. in the old days and those guys knew their stuff and tought me a lot. Travis is an old fart like me and I lived thru that era and knew Ronnine Sox AND "Dyno" Don very well. We had many late evening BS sessions on their old cars and some of the "Tricks" they used to do before they passed away. I have LOTS of "Dyno" Don stories I could tell. Last edited by X-TECH MAN; 03-17-2013 at 10:28 AM.

03-17-2013, 04:24 PM	#39
Ed Carpenter Live Reporter Join Date: May 2006 Location: Dripping Springs, Tx Posts: 2,709 Likes: 186 Liked 520 Times in 132 Posts	Re: What's with the hood... If it's illegal then when Dick goes to the next race your at put the money up and protest him. Dick's a big boy he can take it. __________________ Ed Carpenter 2005 Chevy Cobalt A/SM Race Engine Development

03-18-2013, 10:42 AM	#40
Chuck Garey Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 173 Likes: 0 Liked 10 Times in 7 Posts	Re: What's with the hood... Look under auto imagery, Mr Lux has been running that hood for a while now