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Old 03-17-2012, 06:49 PM   #31
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he had to change conv free time run with new stuff and he didnt get one i would be mad to if anything no time slip should have been given

Who had to change converters and didn't get a time run, Ed or the other guy or both? If they didn't give out time slips, he could have just asked his crew or anybody that saw it what he ran, right? It's a very unfortunate situation, but I don't see how it could have been handled any differently.


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Old 03-17-2012, 06:57 PM   #32
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Who had to change converters and didn't get a time run, Ed or the other guy or both? If they didn't give out time slips, he could have just asked his crew or anybody that saw it what he ran, right? It's a very unfortunate situation, but I don't see how it could have been handled any differently.


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the guy ed ran got his time slip and eds didnt get one because of the tree malfunction so i guess he got a time run and ed didnt and it was unfortunate good info for a run 20 min later
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Old 03-17-2012, 07:16 PM   #33
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Local bracket races are NOT allowed to change a dial-in....I've been in a race or two like that and was told I could not change my dial-in.....I assumed it was a rule applied across the board in all dail-in racing....
My local track will allow dial in changes on reruns,and if there`s a delay or downtime longer than 5 minutes you can change your dial in. Even if you are the pair on the starting line.
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Old 03-17-2012, 08:37 PM   #34
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the last rerun i had toby they would not let us change our dial and kept our time slips but @ gainesville pts race ed richardson refused to let his competitor change his dial he lost because no one explained it to him until it was to late, jim collins our tech director said it has been in the rule book for 19 years? Learn something everyday and mr collins is as fair as they come.
I had a rerun at the Gainesville Points race a couple weeks ago and they let both of us redial. It's in the books! I guess Div.1 needs to get with the program. Jim

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Old 03-18-2012, 11:18 PM   #35
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1) I know you're upset, just like I was last week, but insinuating that someone might have done that to you on purpose is not going to further your argument. It was a mistake, one that sucks for sure, but as was gone over in the thread about my 2nd round loss at Gainesville, NHRA's position and rule is that it is our responsibility as a racer to verify the correct dial in.

2) you should really invest in getting a keyed balancer and having a keyway cut in the crank. If it spins on the crank, it will never hold properly again. It also sounds like you have a bad harmonic damper to begin with if your timing wheel keeps loosening up.
Hi Chad. On number one you are right as far as a dial in goes. It is not your responsibility to verify an index though that is the towers job.
On number 2 my damper did not spin on the crank. It is slightly tapered which was why we didn't cut it and the crank for a keyway. The problem was the adapter that bolts to the damper. came loose, causing the trigger wheel and the adapter to fall off even though I used red locktite and torqued the bolts accordingly. Vibration/harmonics (especially when on the 2 step) on an inline 4 cylinder is ten times worst than any V engine. Even though the crank was spin balanced (which I'm told is unnecessary on a 4 cylinder).
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glad i could help.
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Old 03-19-2012, 11:02 AM   #37
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glad i could help.
Joe I think I know the answer, but does my 12.65 pass count in your top ten? As far as I know the run never happened. Which will be fine with me.
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Joe I think I know the answer, but does my 12.65 pass count in your top ten? As far as I know the run never happened. Which will be fine with me.
I am fine with it never happening too!! lol
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Old 03-19-2012, 12:56 PM   #39
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tim and art you both better hope it didn't happen LOL
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Wasn't Art's fast run during the CIC Race? I thought the CIC race didn't count towards the AHFS. If it did...well...there will be several unhappy racers. LOL
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