Will The 2008 CJ Stick Remain In Stock? - Page 4

Mark Yacavone · 04-18-2011, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeff Teuton

We need new classes for these cars. A/FX A/EXP Top Stock @ 6 has a nice ring.

I assume you mean within Stock Eliminator.
Perfect. Just what's needed. 6 lb cars with parachutes against 14 second cars.

Hey you in that FWD car: Better not commit the mortal sin of deep- staging.
We'll throw yer a** right outta here!

Alan Roehrich · 04-18-2011, 04:37 PM

Stock needs no weight break lower than 7.0. We're already getting well beyond the level at which the safety margin for the equipment in Stock has become to small.

A 6.5 pound class in Stock Eliminator would be about like some of the "outlaw" stuff, they wreck too many cars and tear up too much stuff, if that is what you want to do, then go and do it.

The factory cars need an FX class, and the equipment that goes with it, such as a 10.5" tire rule, and the safety equipment rules that go with the speeds and elapsed times. I'd say the 8.5 second ET safety rules should be adequate.

Tom Meyer · 04-18-2011, 07:14 PM

Larrys numbers are right on, now in the guide 469 hp 6.91lb for the mustang. 09 dodge now at 388hp 7.99 for the auto only 305 for the sticks a mear 83 hp differents. Tom

X-TECH MAN · 04-18-2011, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom Meyer

Larrys numbers are right on, now in the guide 469 hp 6.91lb for the mustang. 09 dodge now at 388hp 7.99 for the auto only 305 for the sticks a mear 83 hp differents. Tom

Heh Heh Just a little more will do it.

Jeff Teuton · 04-18-2011, 07:22 PM

83 Hp. That's why we are going to complete the stick shift 09 Challenger. It will be red. 5.7 Power

HawkBrosMav · 04-18-2011, 07:35 PM

So lets say they do follow the book and make it SS only... does it go back to the SS factor of 425? or does it keep it 469 factor? SS factor is still listed at 425 but that wouldn't make much sense to me it it has 469 in stock trim....does the GT factor then change as well?

Wayne Kerr · 04-18-2011, 07:46 PM

Help me out here.
Is the "D" Dart the only car to actually get factored out of Stock?

If so, what if they allowed the Dart to move back into stock, since AA/SA didn't exist when it was ruled out?

All the safety concerns are a waste of breath, you drive everyday with 80,000 pound rigs on the highway, with 2" lap and shoulder belts and no roll bar in your daily driver.

Plus, 40 years of technology have made cars alot faster, heck, a current V6 Mustang has 300 HP.

Times change, and either you adapt or you become extinct.
Even Mr Jeff learned to use a new fangled computer.

See you at the races,
Wayne Kerr

X-TECH MAN · 04-18-2011, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Wayne Kerr

Help me out here.
Is the "D" Dart the only car to actually get factored out of Stock?

If so, what if they allowed the Dart to move back into stock, since AA/SA didn't exist when it was ruled out?

All the safety concerns are a waste of breath, you drive everyday with 80,000 pound rigs on the highway, with 2" lap and shoulder belts and no roll bar in your daily driver.

Plus, 40 years of technology have made cars alot faster, heck, a current V6 Mustang has 300 HP.

Times change, and either you adapt or you become extinct.
Even Mr Jeff learned to use a new fangled computer.

See you at the races,
Wayne Kerr

NHRA says the Ford only makes 235 HP in race trim with a larger throttle body, CNC ported heads and more cam. I guess the smog controls, lame computer, unported heads. and closed exhaust make more power.

Wayne Kerr · 04-18-2011, 08:40 PM

Mr Tech man,
You are correct.
I am an Idiot and am not worthy of even posting on this subject.
You are and forever will be the one and only authority on NHRA S/SS racing.
I apologize for even having you put forth the effort to type a reply.
I will make it my lifelong journey to be able to carry your lunchbox one day.

See you at the races,
Wayne Kerr

X-TECH MAN · 04-18-2011, 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wayne Kerr

Mr Tech man,
You are correct.
I am an Idiot and am not worthy of even posting on this subject.
You are and forever will be the one and only authority on NHRA S/SS racing.
I apologize for even having you put forth the effort to type a reply.
I will make it my lifelong journey to be able to carry your lunchbox one day.

See you at the races,
Wayne Kerr

Just stating the truth.....hard pill to swollow isnt it.

04-18-2011, 04:37 PM	#32
Alan Roehrich Veteran Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Murfreesboro TN Posts: 5,113 Likes: 1,571 Liked 1,827 Times in 414 Posts	Re: Will The 2008 CJ Stick Remain In Stock? Stock needs no weight break lower than 7.0. We're already getting well beyond the level at which the safety margin for the equipment in Stock has become to small. A 6.5 pound class in Stock Eliminator would be about like some of the "outlaw" stuff, they wreck too many cars and tear up too much stuff, if that is what you want to do, then go and do it. The factory cars need an FX class, and the equipment that goes with it, such as a 10.5" tire rule, and the safety equipment rules that go with the speeds and elapsed times. I'd say the 8.5 second ET safety rules should be adequate. __________________ Alan Roehrich 212A G/S

04-18-2011, 07:14 PM	#33
Tom Meyer Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Pierce NE Posts: 936 Likes: 78 Liked 354 Times in 120 Posts	Re: Will The 2008 CJ Stick Remain In Stock? Larrys numbers are right on, now in the guide 469 hp 6.91lb for the mustang. 09 dodge now at 388hp 7.99 for the auto only 305 for the sticks a mear 83 hp differents. Tom __________________ Tom Meyer 5240 SS Stock ??? Last edited by Tom Meyer; 04-18-2011 at 07:19 PM.

04-18-2011, 07:22 PM	#35
Jeff Teuton VIP Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Houma, LA Posts: 2,717 Likes: 2 Liked 325 Times in 50 Posts	Re: Will The 2008 CJ Stick Remain In Stock? 83 Hp. That's why we are going to complete the stick shift 09 Challenger. It will be red. 5.7 Power __________________ Jeff Teuton 4022 STK

04-18-2011, 07:35 PM	#36
HawkBrosMav Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 362 Likes: 6 Liked 302 Times in 73 Posts	Re: Will The 2008 CJ Stick Remain In Stock? So lets say they do follow the book and make it SS only... does it go back to the SS factor of 425? or does it keep it 469 factor? SS factor is still listed at 425 but that wouldn't make much sense to me it it has 469 in stock trim....does the GT factor then change as well?

04-18-2011, 07:46 PM	#37
Wayne Kerr Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Out to Lunch Posts: 191 Likes: 2 Liked 26 Times in 11 Posts	Re: Will The 2008 CJ Stick Remain In Stock? Help me out here. Is the "D" Dart the only car to actually get factored out of Stock? If so, what if they allowed the Dart to move back into stock, since AA/SA didn't exist when it was ruled out? All the safety concerns are a waste of breath, you drive everyday with 80,000 pound rigs on the highway, with 2" lap and shoulder belts and no roll bar in your daily driver. Plus, 40 years of technology have made cars alot faster, heck, a current V6 Mustang has 300 HP. Times change, and either you adapt or you become extinct. Even Mr Jeff learned to use a new fangled computer. See you at the races, Wayne Kerr

04-18-2011, 08:40 PM	#39
Wayne Kerr Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Out to Lunch Posts: 191 Likes: 2 Liked 26 Times in 11 Posts	Re: Will The 2008 CJ Stick Remain In Stock? Mr Tech man, You are correct. I am an Idiot and am not worthy of even posting on this subject. You are and forever will be the one and only authority on NHRA S/SS racing. I apologize for even having you put forth the effort to type a reply. I will make it my lifelong journey to be able to carry your lunchbox one day. See you at the races, Wayne Kerr