Can you settle an argument?

[Burner]

I have not taken the car a part yet to look for a build sheet, it is pretty much still intack from the dash back, have another 68 that has 4 piston disk brakes and came with a inline 6 and 3 on the tree, so who knows,

[cicero819]

Ok yes the bumperettes were suppose to come with the rsZ28 but you could order them removed from the factory. I spent 8yrs restoring my 69Z28 which I bought from the estate of the original owner in their barn. Mine was ordered with factory deleted bumper guards and rear spoiler(front spoiler was left on) no radio but upgraded interior(he was planning on racing it but blew the engine). Divorce forced the sale to a gentleman who never drives it and has built a shrine to it. These car were met to be driven hard.lol Claude

[Burner]

Mine still has an under dash 8-track tape player, about a big as a mircowave, even has a keyed lock so no one could steal it. almost looks factory installed but again who knows.

[Chuck Norton]

Originally Posted by FINESPLINE

I have three 1969 camaros. camaro #1 is a X33D80 Z/28 09D #2 is a X77D80 Z/28 02C and #3 no X number with narrow spoiler (68)flat hood Z/28 10C. All with factory spoilers-first 2 are norwood cars ----so I give Up !

Since the designation "D80" to identify cars equipped with the spoiler option was not used until midway through the model year, there are a couple of possible explanations. The most likely is that the "09D" body date (fourth week of September) is a very late car. 1969 Camaros were produced until about the first week of November, 1969, due to the late release of the 1970 models. A spoiler-equipped, 09D car built in September, 1969 would have the D80 code on the body tag. An 09D car built in September 1968 should not have the D80 code.

[FINESPLINE]

Originally Posted by Chuck Norton

Since the designation "D80" to identify cars equipped with the spoiler option was not used until midway through the model year, there are a couple of possible explanations. The most likely is that the "09D" body date (fourth week of September) is a very late car. 1969 Camaros were produced until about the first week of November, 1969, due to the late release of the 1970 models. A spoiler-equipped, 09D car built in September, 1969 would have the D80 code on the body tag. An 09D car built in September 1968 should not have the D80 code.

Hi Chuck, I agree with you as the 09D car was a very late end of year build. The 02C car came through with with the D80 on the cowl tag which would probably be one of the first ones with the designation on the tag. Some books say that they did not start putting on until another 2 months. --------what is------IS ! It all would be easier if GM handled it like GM of CANADA .---------John

[Geerhead55]

Burner,,,,,check to see if you've got an 8,000 rpm tach,,which was Z-28 only. Also, all dual exhaust cars had plates welded behind the rear wheels on the subframe for exhaust hangers,,something else to look for. Nice barn find,,,more pictures please!
Danny Durham

[Floyd Staggs]

A Z28 sold on Barrett Jackson yesterday for 40K.

[FINESPLINE]

Yes Floyd, the market is down on muscle cars. Also the car that you seen on Barret Jackson may have had issues that you will not see on TV and will not hear about. Have you ever been to one of the major auctions ? I would recommend it to anyone looking to buy an INVESTMENT. Keep in mind the B-J aucton is a NO RESERVE auction which means once the car reaches the stage whatever it sells for that is it. B-J gets ( dont quote on this ) 17 % on the front and 17% on back so buyer and seller both pay. Many times the creme of the crop never make the line for the stage as the deal is done out in the lot. The Russo & Steele and Mecum auctions are RESERVE auctions in which if the car does not make the reserve you can take it back home. I believe it makes the auctioneer work harder for you to get your number. I know a person who did well with his purchase at a Russo&Steele auction and I know 2 people got screwed at a B-J auction aqnd one of them are involved in a lawsuit with B-J. Bottom line KNOW WHAT YOU LOOKING AT AND CHECK AS MANY NUMBERS CAN OR HIRE A PRO TO CHECK A CAR YOUR INTERESTED IN. BUYER BEWARE !!

[Paul Ceasrine]

Wide range of bids on Musclecars.
I think Barrett-Jackson gets a sellers fee up-front, plus
8% of the sale.
The buyer must pay a $400 registration fee, plus 10% of the sale.
There is a 17% buyers fee, for something called the automobilia
premium/absentee buyer.
So I'm guessing, if your not present at the auction, you get
hammered.

On a $50,000 sale. B-J gets $4000 from the seller, and a minimum of
$5000 from the buyer, unless it was the 'Special Hammer, which at
17% would be $8500.

The Road Race cars are starting to make a move up the scale.

[Paul Ceasrine]

Jeff,
On the small-journal versus large-journal.
The 67' blocks were 2-bolt mains, and utilized connecting rods with 5/16" bolts.
Also pistons with pressed-in pins.
The theory is the 4-bolt mains and larger-journal cranks are stronger.

This one can be debated until eternity.

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