Stocker engine Input please - Page 4

BobUnkefer · 11-25-2009, 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dwight Southerland

I recommend the 396-350 combo, simply because.

The 327 and 350 would rank as the most beat-on combos in Stock Elim. Advantages: lots of parts, lots of experience/information,lots of competition. Disadvantages: too sorted out, will take too much effort to go really fast.

The 396-325 has also been beat on pretty hard. It will probably get HP this year.

The 396-350 will likely only cost 10hp next year and the camshaft difference is worth it. If you get tired of it, put a smaller cam in it and you have a 325 engine.

Personally, I would do the 302 or the 396-375, but that's because I like the activity of a stick car.

looks like 396/350 is going to win out, trany decision is next, already getting input on that as well.

Stick car would certainly be fun, but from the announcers chair I've watched FAR too many stick cars blow the tires off @ the hit at the WRONG time, I'll take the slightly more dependable automatic.

Thanks to everyone for the input, it's been educational.

Dwight,
"Pickles Gap, AR"? is that anywhere near Toad Suck?

Unk

bsa633 · 11-25-2009, 06:33 PM

[QUOTE=Dwight Southerland;153175]
The 396-350 will likely only cost 10hp next year QUOTE]
If that happens it's a nobrainer..

Mark Yacavone · 11-25-2009, 07:22 PM

[QUOTE=bsa633;153197]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dwight Southerland

The 396-350 will likely only cost 10hp next year QUOTE]
If that happens it's a nobrainer..

I'm not sure of that. 95# for the extra cam lift. It might be a little stronger but maybe only a few hun.
Maybe someone can document it otherwise..

Sean Cour · 11-25-2009, 07:45 PM

I'm pretty sure the 396/350 combo wasn't offered in the Camaro. I know it came in the Nova, as this is the combo Gary Waldo runs.

Sean

BobUnkefer · 11-25-2009, 07:59 PM

396
*

350hp
CAMARO 108
Coupe 2 Dr 9.59
W/TH 9.76
Convertible 10.45
W/TH 10.61

STOCK/SUPER STOCK FACTORS 340
w OEM Heads 7.31.02
STOCK/SUPER STOCK FACTORS
w replacement heads

Sean,
In researching this car I did find 325, 350 & 396 info and NHRA shows it in the classification guide. Nitro Joe's stats also shows several being run. I think we're ok

Unk

james schaechter · 11-25-2009, 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BobUnkefer

Tommy,

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Wouldn't mind a 4 speed, but damn, it's been since the early 80's when I last rowed my way through a gearbox,,,,, AHRA SS 289 4 spd Mercury Comet,,,, and I think things have changed some since then (mild understatement there).

Unk

Come on Bob. I see now a couple of excuses about why you cannot run a stick. Search your feelings. You know you want it.

Besides you might see another Guest Racer/Announcer with a 4 gear in his hand next year somewhere. You know if he can do it, you can. He hasn't dumped a load without having a Sunday newspaper in his hand for years. LOL.

bsa633 · 11-25-2009, 10:48 PM

[QUOTE=Mark Yacavone;153207]

Quote:

Originally Posted by bsa633

I'm not sure of that. 95# for the extra cam lift. ..

It's probably a "wash" performance wise but those 95# in the trunk will help a little on those quite nose heavy combos!

Alex Denysenko · 11-25-2009, 11:10 PM

I recommend ............. a FORD.

Problem solved.

Bernie Cunningham · 11-26-2009, 12:14 AM

That sounds right !!! You FORD guys could probably organize to have 'one of those' put in a CHEVY and make it legal !!! LOL

kfickler · 11-27-2009, 08:42 PM

Unk,

In the spirit of the holiday, I am willing to share my letter from the General of the long rumored UD/SA combo...you have to dig hard to find it but a 4.3L V-6 TBI in a 68 Camaro classified as UnderDeveloped/Stock Automatic in the AHRA class guide and was grand fathered into the NHRA class guide via an antitrust provision between the American league and the National league…

11-25-2009, 06:33 PM	#32
bsa633 Banned Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 310 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Stocker engine Input please [QUOTE=Dwight Southerland;153175] The 396-350 will likely only cost 10hp next year QUOTE] If that happens it's a nobrainer..

11-25-2009, 07:45 PM	#34
Sean Cour Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 458 Likes: 170 Liked 124 Times in 39 Posts	Re: Stocker engine Input please I'm pretty sure the 396/350 combo wasn't offered in the Camaro. I know it came in the Nova, as this is the combo Gary Waldo runs. Sean

11-25-2009, 07:59 PM	#35
BobUnkefer Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Kansas City, MO Posts: 465 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Stocker engine Input please 396 * 350hp CAMARO 108 Coupe 2 Dr 9.59 W/TH 9.76 Convertible 10.45 W/TH 10.61 STOCK/SUPER STOCK FACTORS 340 w OEM Heads 7.31.02 STOCK/SUPER STOCK FACTORS w replacement heads Sean, In researching this car I did find 325, 350 & 396 info and NHRA shows it in the classification guide. Nitro Joe's stats also shows several being run. I think we're ok Unk

11-25-2009, 11:10 PM	#38
Alex Denysenko Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Michigan City IN Posts: 633 Likes: 0 Liked 4 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Stocker engine Input please I recommend ............. a FORD. Problem solved. __________________ Alex Denysenko NHRA 3038 SS, 3305 STK - IHRA 6 SS, 330A STK Moneymaker Racing LaPorte Indiana 219-861-1214 www.moneymakerracing.net

11-26-2009, 12:14 AM	#39
Bernie Cunningham Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Southern California Posts: 560 Likes: 45 Liked 52 Times in 17 Posts	Re: Stocker engine Input please That sounds right !!! You FORD guys could probably organize to have 'one of those' put in a CHEVY and make it legal !!! LOL __________________ Bernie Cunningham 7053 STK

11-27-2009, 08:42 PM	#40
kfickler Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 29 Likes: 1 Liked 10 Times in 2 Posts	Re: Stocker engine Input please Unk, In the spirit of the holiday, I am willing to share my letter from the General of the long rumored UD/SA combo...you have to dig hard to find it but a 4.3L V-6 TBI in a 68 Camaro classified as UnderDeveloped/Stock Automatic in the AHRA class guide and was grand fathered into the NHRA class guide via an antitrust provision between the American league and the National league…