True meaning

[George Fitzpatrick]

Yes it needed the cherry picker. and lets not forget those mufflers.

[Casey Miles]

Art: No boomerang, but the same Camaro. Still can't or don't want to put rediculous money into it. I race with mufflers and full exhaust. I can drive my in if I want.
Casey

[Bryan Worner]

Originally Posted by Wade_Owens

Why does NHRA allow this to be a 180 car field in the first place? If it where treated like all other races, the first 128 to enter, would be the field anyway. I know if this where the rule, my 4 grade points probably wouldnt be in the show. But, that is why they use this system, right? To "reward" the racer with an earlier entry date, that runs more divisionals?

It couldnt always be about the money, otherwise they would charge full pop for your extra crew members, right?

SO, why not a 128 car field?................

Wade Owens
3913 Chevelle

Because it's INDY!!!! The US Nationals!!! The biggest race of the year! A week long event! The most sought after trophy on the circuit! There are a few reasons.......need some more??

The fact all of you against the new rule are missing is.......Stock and Super Stock have many classes. How fair is it for a guy to run .85 under the index and not get in the 128 car field and a class winner, who only got in because he was lucky enough to single for his .50 under class win??? Doesn't sound fair to me in a "performance based" eliminator!!! How can any of you......especially the one's who have constantly cried and whined about lifting, dumping and 1000' racing, be arguing against the fastest 128 making up the field at Indy.......and face it, we're only talking about Indy because that is the only race they allow that many entries! If you don't like this rule that only applies to this one race........don't go to that race! It's simple! If you're out to prove you belong in the elite of your class.....then go there and do just that......or go down swinging......not whining with a keyboard!

[art leong]

Originally Posted by George Fitzpatrick

Yes it needed the cherry picker. and lets not forget those mufflers.

Goerge the mufflers were that way because of leaded GAS LOL LOL

[Wade_Owens]

Because it's INDY!!!! The US Nationals!!! The biggest race of the year! A week long event! The most sought after trophy on the circuit! There are a few reasons.......need some more??

Bryan, I know I'm new here and most dont know me. But if you did, you would now I probably know as much about Indy class racing as anyone on this board. Even though I havent raced there, I have followed the history of the sport, especially Indy. You dont have to remind me of how big the event is.

All I'm saying is, if this is such a big deal on both sides, it seems like an easy fix. I'm sure there are several who have entered and now they KNOW they will not be in the field. This should have been in place long before plans where made to attend, or the entries where even opened up.

I'm 100% neutral on this subject, I may or may not get in, but, I damn sure going to try....

Wade O

[Jeff Lee]

Originally Posted by Bryan Worner

Because it's INDY!!!! The US Nationals!!! The biggest race of the year! A week long event! The most sought after trophy on the circuit! There are a few reasons.......need some more??

The fact all of you against the new rule are missing is.......Stock and Super Stock have many classes. How fair is it for a guy to run .85 under the index and not get in the 128 car field and a class winner, who only got in because he was lucky enough to single for his .50 under class win??? Doesn't sound fair to me in a "performance based" eliminator!!! How can any of you......especially the one's who have constantly cried and whined about lifting, dumping and 1000' racing, be arguing against the fastest 128 making up the field at Indy.......and face it, we're only talking about Indy because that is the only race they allow that many entries! If you don't like this rule that only applies to this one race........don't go to that race! It's simple! If you're out to prove you belong in the elite of your class.....then go there and do just that......or go down swinging......not whining with a keyboard!

Bryan,
Your a contradiction to your own statments!
Yes, BECAUSE IT'S INDY! That is the idea here.
Has anybody stopped to realize there are some vehicles that although they may be the "top dog" of their class, they may not be capable of running 1.2 under? So for that they should be penalized? Indy has always been "class winners" admitted, all other's fall into their respective positioning. If it's "not fair" it sure has been "fair enough" for the last 40+ years. And those that didn't like the rule for the last 40+ years, stayed home!
The rule book and class guide allows for hundreds of combinations. Those that choose one combo over another should not be penalized. If you win class, through whatever circumstances, you are the Class winner.
Actually, I just had a thought...it could be that it will take an 1.15 under for every car to enter under the new rule. That would be halarious for EVERYBODY to get hit with the AHFS the following Monday. That could be very likely because just about everybody would have the same car or two! Then the following year, when everybody builds the latest trick of the year car, it can start all over again!

[Bruce Noland]

Art,
You keep leaving parts out. Like winning class and then not running the eliminator at Englishtown.

Jeff,
The bump at Indy this year will be well below the figures you are using. Probably .900 under will do it.

[art leong]

Look at the records I ran class and didn't run the eliminator. twice. One time at Maple Grove because I didn't qualify. And once in Gainesville when I broke the car.
Those are the facts "BOZO"

[Bruce Noland]

Art,
Get'n a little testy huh? I was ribb'n ya. I have no desire to spend any time tracing your whereabouts.

But now that you have gone off into microwave I'll tell you that I remember you making that post. Whether you meant a damn word of it is none of my concern but you did make the post. Your ripe old age, that you mentioned, is getting the best of ya.

[Ed Fernandez]

Maybe it's time to put a fork in this thread,it's WELL done.Bruce someone said it earlier,you're supposed to be the moderator on this site ,not an antagonist.Maybe Rodney King was right "Can't we all get along".

Ed