'67 Camaro E/SA redo - Page 34

brent flynn · 08-08-2014, 11:28 PM

full floaters in my engine... im sure that was slowin you down a tad...

HandOverFist · 08-09-2014, 04:31 AM

Yeah, a set of Manley rods will be attached to those CP pistons when I locate a set.

HandOverFist · 08-10-2014, 06:55 PM

May have located a set of CP pistons from a forum member. Another slightly tech question - There are about 8 different Manley rods (large journal) listed in the S/SS blueprint sheet...anyone have the spec's on these rods or know which one I should be considering for this engine? (14101, 14350, 14201 ?) I'm thinking Manley 14101 would be the best bang for the buck here.

Rich Biebel · 08-11-2014, 07:07 AM

Those 14101 sportsman rods will work fine for you.

I used them in my late model LT-1 Stocker engine.

Same LJ crank pins

Alan Nyhus · 08-11-2014, 07:16 AM

Rich, the Manley #14101 (14101-8 for a set) is the one you'll want. The Manley catalog claries things better than the NHRA accepted list: http://www.manleyperformance.com/master_catalog.shtml

I'm in the same boat as you....but have resisted taking the motor apart until the off season.

-Al

HandOverFist · 08-11-2014, 07:22 AM

Thanks guys - That's the rod I will go with then. I may have the car back together in time to make a couple of end of year races. The plus side is the car will finally have some much needed fresh paint.

HandOverFist · 08-16-2014, 09:53 PM

Back and forth between motor work and paint/body work...this weekend it is paint and body.

Took a razor blade to the doors to avoid having to deal with all the decal glue residue...didnt take too long as the paint was not adhered to the door panels very well to begin with.

I managed to get the front clip pieces along with the deck lid in shape today and I went ahead and painted the backside of all the parts. I have decided I will re-assemble the car and paint it as a whole...will make it much easier to color match all the panels and I won't have to worry with gouging/scratching finished surfaces.

Tomorrow I will detach the inner fender liners and freshen those up with paint. I'll then go ahead and assemble those to the fenders so I can make a straight shot re-attaching the assemblies.

This won't be a show car finish, but I will take the time to block outside surfaces. I went with the Sierra Fawn color in single stage so I can wet color sand and buff when finished. I know the base/clear would have been lighter, but I just have never been able to master laying down clear. On the plus side if it gets any gouges, dings or scratches I can easily repair them myself with this system. Another full day planned for Sunday...

Alan Nyhus · 08-17-2014, 09:01 AM

Looking forward to the 'new look', Rich...and the new power! -Al

HandOverFist · 08-17-2014, 08:50 PM

Lots of rain today and didnt do any spraying. My partner got ambitious and figured out how to remove the window trim and door felts so that part is out of the way. Seats are out and will be re-covered soon. My next project will be on the inside of the car taking apart the dash once more...going to need matching paint in the interior, right? That will be a weekender for sure with all the masking and detail work...hopefully I will get the door jambs/threshholds done at the same time. Oh yeah...removed the fuel cell so we could paint the trunk which has up to this point only been in primer.

Consensus - Black tail or not? If I remember correctly these were a matte black finish???

Dion Hildebrandt · 08-18-2014, 10:39 AM

Black tail is my vote.......the sure come apart easy hey? JK

It sure is a sobering reality when "down on power" is the problem ,good luck with the freshen up!

08-08-2014, 11:28 PM	#331
brent flynn Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Middletown, IN Posts: 593 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: '67 Camaro E/SA redo full floaters in my engine... im sure that was slowin you down a tad... __________________ 1968 Bird/TRW 455/Home ported 13's, '70 Qjet,Holley Street Dominator manifold, Comp Solid FT, 10.817/122.30/1.440 Workin' on E/SA combo 3119 E/SA

08-09-2014, 04:31 AM	#332
HandOverFist VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Gulf Breeze, FL Posts: 1,651 Likes: 8 Liked 33 Times in 16 Posts	Re: '67 Camaro E/SA redo Yeah, a set of Manley rods will be attached to those CP pistons when I locate a set. __________________ Rich Taylor I/SA - 321

08-10-2014, 06:55 PM	#333
HandOverFist VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Gulf Breeze, FL Posts: 1,651 Likes: 8 Liked 33 Times in 16 Posts	Re: '67 Camaro E/SA redo May have located a set of CP pistons from a forum member. Another slightly tech question - There are about 8 different Manley rods (large journal) listed in the S/SS blueprint sheet...anyone have the spec's on these rods or know which one I should be considering for this engine? (14101, 14350, 14201 ?) I'm thinking Manley 14101 would be the best bang for the buck here. __________________ Rich Taylor I/SA - 321 Last edited by HandOverFist; 08-10-2014 at 07:59 PM.

08-11-2014, 07:07 AM	#334
Rich Biebel VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Northern New Jersey suburbs Posts: 2,315 Likes: 25 Liked 544 Times in 213 Posts	Re: '67 Camaro E/SA redo Those 14101 sportsman rods will work fine for you. I used them in my late model LT-1 Stocker engine. Same LJ crank pins __________________ Rich Biebel S/C 1479 Stock 147R

08-11-2014, 07:16 AM	#335
Alan Nyhus VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Lower Dakota territory Posts: 1,180 Likes: 1,074 Liked 799 Times in 236 Posts	Re: '67 Camaro E/SA redo Rich, the Manley #14101 (14101-8 for a set) is the one you'll want. The Manley catalog claries things better than the NHRA accepted list: http://www.manleyperformance.com/master_catalog.shtml I'm in the same boat as you....but have resisted taking the motor apart until the off season. -Al __________________ "That'll never work....."

08-11-2014, 07:22 AM	#336
HandOverFist VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Gulf Breeze, FL Posts: 1,651 Likes: 8 Liked 33 Times in 16 Posts	Re: '67 Camaro E/SA redo Thanks guys - That's the rod I will go with then. I may have the car back together in time to make a couple of end of year races. The plus side is the car will finally have some much needed fresh paint. __________________ Rich Taylor I/SA - 321

08-16-2014, 09:53 PM	#337
HandOverFist VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Gulf Breeze, FL Posts: 1,651 Likes: 8 Liked 33 Times in 16 Posts	Re: '67 Camaro E/SA redo Back and forth between motor work and paint/body work...this weekend it is paint and body. Took a razor blade to the doors to avoid having to deal with all the decal glue residue...didnt take too long as the paint was not adhered to the door panels very well to begin with. I managed to get the front clip pieces along with the deck lid in shape today and I went ahead and painted the backside of all the parts. I have decided I will re-assemble the car and paint it as a whole...will make it much easier to color match all the panels and I won't have to worry with gouging/scratching finished surfaces. Tomorrow I will detach the inner fender liners and freshen those up with paint. I'll then go ahead and assemble those to the fenders so I can make a straight shot re-attaching the assemblies. This won't be a show car finish, but I will take the time to block outside surfaces. I went with the Sierra Fawn color in single stage so I can wet color sand and buff when finished. I know the base/clear would have been lighter, but I just have never been able to master laying down clear. On the plus side if it gets any gouges, dings or scratches I can easily repair them myself with this system. Another full day planned for Sunday... __________________ Rich Taylor I/SA - 321

08-17-2014, 09:01 AM	#338
Alan Nyhus VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Lower Dakota territory Posts: 1,180 Likes: 1,074 Liked 799 Times in 236 Posts	Re: '67 Camaro E/SA redo Looking forward to the 'new look', Rich...and the new power! -Al __________________ "That'll never work....."

08-17-2014, 08:50 PM	#339
HandOverFist VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Gulf Breeze, FL Posts: 1,651 Likes: 8 Liked 33 Times in 16 Posts	Re: '67 Camaro E/SA redo Lots of rain today and didnt do any spraying. My partner got ambitious and figured out how to remove the window trim and door felts so that part is out of the way. Seats are out and will be re-covered soon. My next project will be on the inside of the car taking apart the dash once more...going to need matching paint in the interior, right? That will be a weekender for sure with all the masking and detail work...hopefully I will get the door jambs/threshholds done at the same time. Oh yeah...removed the fuel cell so we could paint the trunk which has up to this point only been in primer. Consensus - Black tail or not? If I remember correctly these were a matte black finish??? __________________ Rich Taylor I/SA - 321 Last edited by HandOverFist; 08-17-2014 at 09:26 PM.

08-18-2014, 10:39 AM	#340
Dion Hildebrandt Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: calgary alberta canada Posts: 383 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: '67 Camaro E/SA redo Black tail is my vote.......the sure come apart easy hey? JK It sure is a sobering reality when "down on power" is the problem ,good luck with the freshen up! __________________ Dion Hildebrandt 6009 STK H/SA