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Old 02-06-2019, 07:19 PM   #21
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Last year Nat. at Va. less then 64 cars winner got 105 runner up got 84 and semi got 73
Winner gets 105 for 6 or 7 round events. 5 rounds drops to 95, 8 rounds goes up to 115.

At 7 rounds the runner-up would get 94, semis 83, etc.
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Old 02-06-2019, 10:58 PM   #22
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I am somewhat at a loss to understand what the point is that is being made here. My view was that NHRA for once was doing us a favor by letting racers pick and choose which divisionals were the most efficient and cost effective for them to travel to and accommodate their schedule. Please explain to me what the downside of allowing this is? Among other scenarios, staying for a divisional after a natl event sure beats the hell out of driving to an entirely extra event. Also, there are several racers up here in the cold and rainy North that choose to travel South early in the year to pick up races before our weather and racing season is viable. I have been racing divisionals since '86 so not exactly a newbie at this.

As a side note, I think years ago Charlie Taylor won 4 divisionals in one year, two were in division, two were out. If I remember right, they did not award him the divisional championship that year because he did not have the 3 in division requirement.

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No point is trying to be made, sorry! I was curious as to the rational used to structure the points system and the awarding of points for both in-division and out-of-division races. Keeping in mind the divisional series was developed for racers to race closer to home, and allowing racers to choose a division that best fits their location.


Secondly, Is it fair to award a divisional championship to a racer who only competed in three of the six divisional home races when the 2nd or 3rd place finisher competed in all six. The 2 nd 3rd finishers appear to be penalized because they work, have limited vacation, and are balancing life and racing budgets, thus minimizing their ability to travel, etc. As I noted in the original post, 40% of the divisional winners from 2018 to 2008 would have been different if only in-division point were used, that's not a small percentage.
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Old 02-06-2019, 11:00 PM   #23
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Winner gets 105 for 6 or 7 round events. 5 rounds drops to 95, 8 rounds goes up to 115.

At 7 rounds the runner-up would get 94, semis 83, etc.
OK, that's makes sense. Thanks,
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Old 02-06-2019, 11:12 PM   #24
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Lenny is a super class racer where there are 8 round races....there are NO 8 round races in stock or superstock....
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^^^^ said the man that lost in the eighth round at the Class Nationals
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Old 02-07-2019, 08:43 AM   #26
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No point is trying to be made......
So, why did you write this second paragraph about life being unfair?


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Secondly, Is it fair to award a divisional championship to a racer who only competed in three of the six divisional home races when the 2nd or 3rd place finisher competed in all six. The 2 nd 3rd finishers appear to be penalized because they work, have limited vacation, and are balancing life and racing budgets, thus minimizing their ability to travel, etc. As I noted in the original post, 40% of the divisional winners from 2018 to 2008 would have been different if only in-division point were used, that's not a small percentage.
This logic only works if the racer lives in the middle of the division.
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Old 02-07-2019, 09:12 AM   #27
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^^^^ said the man that lost in the eighth round at the Class Nationals
Ouch, that's gonna leave a bruise!
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Old 02-07-2019, 09:55 AM   #28
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So, why did you write this second paragraph about life being unfair?




This logic only works if the racer lives in the middle of the division.
GUMP,

I believe you mentioned "Life" in your first comment to this thread, and I don't believe life is unfair, do you? Furthermore, there has been some great points, as you mentioned, based on a racer's local with respect to the divisions, not sure if you read the entire thread.

NHRA has no control over where we live, our family situations or our finances. However, if the current layout of the divisions excludes a large number of racers from competing in a chosen division, then we should discuss a new structure?
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^^^^ said the man that lost in the eighth round at the Class Nationals
Game on now......!!!
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I think MJ is the only person that won seven rounds at a stock race and not win the race. I was just trying to help MJ remember his stealer performance at the first Class Nationals. As they say "The knees are the second thing to go and I can't remember what was the first is"
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