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Old 08-04-2010, 06:32 PM   #21
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Todd,
The Dart is a little better looking.
Maybe the V-200 4-door would work better for a late-nite sleeper car.
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Old 08-04-2010, 10:39 PM   #22
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Yes Paul the Dart is a bit better looking, but I'd love to do the '67 Valiant SSer in some wild colour or paint scheme...
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Old 08-05-2010, 08:17 AM   #23
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Todd,
Never saw to many 67' Valiant 273 Commando's running around back in the late 60's or early 70's.
As a matter of fact, I only saw one, in K/SA in 70'/71'.
Always thought that was a 'cool' project car.
Done up, those cars look 'nice'.
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Old 08-05-2010, 11:40 AM   #24
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Todd,
Never saw to many 67' Valiant 273 Commando's running around back in the late 60's or early 70's.
As a matter of fact, I only saw one, in K/SA in 70'/71'.
Always thought that was a 'cool' project car.
Done up, those cars look 'nice'.
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Paul,

I bought a '67 Barracuda Coupe with the 273/235 and 4 speed in pieces from a guy in Texas....all original but the engine was apart and it had a trunk full of speed parts. Unfortunately the Army decided to send me to Germany and I had to sell it. Wish I hadn't.

Didn't one of the defunct Mopar magazines buy a '67 Valiant with the 273/235 and 4 sp and ripped it all apart as a project car or was it a Dart?

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Old 08-05-2010, 12:32 PM   #25
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Jim R,
Can't remember.
Do remember one them wasting there time re-building a 318
for a Valiant., to get it to run 13.90's.
All that time and effort wasted. Easier to drop in a 340.
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Old 08-05-2010, 04:22 PM   #26
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Paul,

I bought a '67 Barracuda Coupe with the 273/235 and 4 speed in pieces from a guy in Texas....all original but the engine was apart and it had a trunk full of speed parts. Unfortunately the Army decided to send me to Germany and I had to sell it. Wish I hadn't.

Didn't one of the defunct Mopar magazines buy a '67 Valiant with the 273/235 and 4 sp and ripped it all apart as a project car or was it a Dart?

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Maybe you are thinking of the "Green Brick" Valiant?

http://www.moparaction.com/Article/B...reenBrick.html

http://www.moparaction.com/Tech/arch...e-lap-pix.html

http://www.rancefi.com/flying_green_brick_page.htm
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Old 08-05-2010, 07:05 PM   #27
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Paul,

I'm curious.

What was in Chrysler's mind when they created the 273 ci? It is an interesting motor. If the corporation needed a small displacement motor, why one with its particular specs (fairly long stroke for that ci, long rod, small bore, overall small ci)?

A friend of mine had a 273 ci Commando back in the day, and I've always been curious about them, but the upcoming 340 ci soon made a bigger splash...
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Myron,

It wasn't the Brick because I distinctly remember the magazine going under before the car was anywhere near complete. They took out the original drive despite it's rarity and were building it with another small block.

I'll find some time to look through my collection and find out.

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OK,

Let's say the NHRA decides to let me run the D/Dart in stock. Besides the HP change what changes can I make to the package to make it competitive and what special pieces do I need?....intake, carb, etc?

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Jim, one of the special pieces you need is the intake. The D-Dart intake manifold is a single plane identical to the Chrysler 318 marine intake manifold.
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Old 08-06-2010, 06:38 AM   #30
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What was in Chrysler's mind when they created the 273 ci? It is an interesting motor. If the corporation needed a small displacement motor, why one with its particular specs (fairly long stroke for that ci, long rod, small bore, overall small ci)?
Economics. Same crank & rods they had been using for years (318 stuff). Bore was small enough to get the displacement in the range they were targeting while still being able to use the 318 heads. Very few new pieces they had to engineer.
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