Showroom Stock why not? - Page 3

ss wannabee · 09-19-2015, 01:46 PM

Why now?

Alan Roehrich · 09-19-2015, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by cicero819

Alan, no need to police anything since it's an all run category with no one getting pushed out. All you really need is a good set of drag radials. I've sat through enough races from the bleachers to tell you that there is enough time.Since I believe in this I am ready to put some money where my mouth is for Division 1 races. Claude Ruel

All run? No tech? No qualifying? So this is bracket racing disguised as "Showroom Stock"?

Jack Matyas · 09-19-2015, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by cicero819

I've sat through enough races from the bleachers to tell you that there is enough time.Since I believe in this I am ready to put some money where my mouth is for Division 1 races. Claude Ruel

Guess you were not at Englishtown LODRS this past weekend as there was no time for anything but serious racing .As for funding - here's the deal for you - you can be like the snowmobile guys and gals as they fund their whole deal themselves - step up and bring your checkbook ! ! !

cicero819 · 09-19-2015, 04:09 PM

Jack I respect you vast experience from your early days driving your Chevrolet delivery wagon to your new COPO.I don't think that any of us wiser(not older) gentlemen could have step up to a top of the line race car when we started but many did drive right off the street with their 67,8,9 Camaro into a class that NHRA determined was right for us. All I'm suggesting is a new way to bring new blood and old blood back at a divisional event. Not to take away from the guys and gals who pay their own way to race sleds down the quarter mile but I think that it would better to see new cars going down the quarter mile than something needing snow in the middle of the summer.Sorry that I missed the race since I broke my leg working. my other question for all of you out there is why are there hardly any spectator for such a great show as a divisional event? Is it because of not enough advertising or there's too much competition for the same dollar? thanks

BRINK · 09-19-2015, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by jeff teuton

i like it. Drive them there, race, drive them home. Like the 50's. More fun. Back then and in the 60's is the way we did it. Tech was not hard, pull one down on occasion or the protests are great and exciting between the brands. Why don't you get hold of your srac rep and let them bring it up. I don't think the details would be that hard to work out, but i have been wrong before, in 1972 april i was wrong on something. Don't remember what it was.

oops, wrong again.

BRINK · 09-19-2015, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by cicero819

I would love if NHRA would consider introducing at Divisional events, a class that would be call Showroom Stock. All run on a dial index(bracket racing style or stock super stock et dial) 2) 10 years and newer models 3) only modification tires and wheels &dual exhaust. this would be an entry level,which could bring new blood that might want to move up to S/Super stock classes or retain old blood racing at an affordable level. We could interest automobile manufacturer(new vehicle sales) Tire and wheel manufacturer would be interested by new sales. I think that there is enough time at a race to schedule this class. Like I've said in the past better to have a car going down the strip than a snowmobile anytime. Look we have to get more people in love with our sportand stop making it an elitous sport for the rich.Claude Ruel

I think you need to get a life. Oh by the way, there are some used race cars for sale in each and every issue of National Dragster. I suggest that you invest in one, and come out and race for real. You may find that you may just like it. It sure beats dreaming about it.

Dan Fahey · 09-20-2015, 12:54 AM

These interesting arguments for Factory Stock or Showroom Stock are the same ones for Pure Stock.
Most cars can run under the index with a few sorted modifications.

Gears, Sticky Tires and Tune.
Add a street Converter and will run 2-4 tenths under.
All the normal bolt on equipment.

I think this is a worthy conversation as described Showroom Stock fit into current Pure Stock IHRA rules.

For almost a decade that is how I ran my Pure Stocker.
Mostly Bracket Racing then Stock.
Would change tires at the track and race.

Over the years my car has been upgraded.
One day may make the huge change to Stock.

The point about Showroom Stock and Pure Stock is to attract new racers.
Get excited newcomers hooked into the Sport we love.
Fwiw we have a conduit for Showroom Stock already available!

Dna

Jeff Teuton · 09-20-2015, 10:23 AM

Where were all the "No New Classes" folks when NHRA added 23 new classes to Super Stock last year bringing the total to 109 classes. I think it is a medical issue discovered by the CDC a couple years ago called "OK to Add Classes if I like the Cars in the Class", which is an offshoot of another disease the CDC found in 2008 called "Old Cars are the Only cars". Research is continuing.

D.Johns · 09-20-2015, 11:33 AM

Just call it bracket 1,2,3.

However most young guys/girls aren't interested in bracket racing. New spectators to the sport really don't understand or like bracket racing.

Everyone generally prefers heads up, beating the other guy in the lane. That's what you see on test and tunes and you see more spectators in the stands on those nights also.

Problem is heads up is expensive and the more rules that are added the more expensive it gets. Even the crate motor cars are becoming humongously expensive. Why because speed cost money how fast do you want to go? Not uncommon to be spending thousands of dollars on bolts to lessen the polar moment of inertia.

Want more people and new blood? Put on what the kids are into. Current fad is small tire and grudge racing. Have to always be changing with the times not trying to rekindle old flames. Those things worked at the time not because they were designed that way but due to a perfect storm.

Perhaps there will be a lot of draw in your area for this and it will work. In my area it's battling of the area codes at a local track 2-3x a year on who's the quickest with an instant green start.

rapid1055 · 09-20-2015, 01:11 PM

Claude great idea...unfortunately you get the following:
Great idea unfortunately...
Dream on...
Claude "your very right" but...
Sorry...
You can be like "snowmobile guys and gals"
There were exceptions to these responses that very well stated a positive viewpoint thank you.
I see plenty of showroom cars from all the major manufactures wherever I travel.

09-19-2015, 01:46 PM	#21
ss wannabee Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 663 Likes: 0 Liked 7 Times in 7 Posts	Re: Showroom Stock why not? Why now?

09-19-2015, 04:09 PM	#24
cicero819 VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Aylmer Quebec, Canada Posts: 1,086 Likes: 31 Liked 69 Times in 30 Posts	Re: Showroom Stock why not? Jack I respect you vast experience from your early days driving your Chevrolet delivery wagon to your new COPO.I don't think that any of us wiser(not older) gentlemen could have step up to a top of the line race car when we started but many did drive right off the street with their 67,8,9 Camaro into a class that NHRA determined was right for us. All I'm suggesting is a new way to bring new blood and old blood back at a divisional event. Not to take away from the guys and gals who pay their own way to race sleds down the quarter mile but I think that it would better to see new cars going down the quarter mile than something needing snow in the middle of the summer.Sorry that I missed the race since I broke my leg working. my other question for all of you out there is why are there hardly any spectator for such a great show as a divisional event? Is it because of not enough advertising or there's too much competition for the same dollar? thanks

09-20-2015, 12:54 AM	#27
Dan Fahey VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 2,128 Likes: 1,084 Liked 184 Times in 113 Posts	Re: Showroom Stock why not? These interesting arguments for Factory Stock or Showroom Stock are the same ones for Pure Stock. Most cars can run under the index with a few sorted modifications. Gears, Sticky Tires and Tune. Add a street Converter and will run 2-4 tenths under. All the normal bolt on equipment. I think this is a worthy conversation as described Showroom Stock fit into current Pure Stock IHRA rules. For almost a decade that is how I ran my Pure Stocker. Mostly Bracket Racing then Stock. Would change tires at the track and race. Over the years my car has been upgraded. One day may make the huge change to Stock. The point about Showroom Stock and Pure Stock is to attract new racers. Get excited newcomers hooked into the Sport we love. Fwiw we have a conduit for Showroom Stock already available! Dna

09-20-2015, 10:23 AM	#28
Jeff Teuton VIP Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Houma, LA Posts: 2,717 Likes: 2 Liked 325 Times in 50 Posts	Re: Showroom Stock why not? Where were all the "No New Classes" folks when NHRA added 23 new classes to Super Stock last year bringing the total to 109 classes. I think it is a medical issue discovered by the CDC a couple years ago called "OK to Add Classes if I like the Cars in the Class", which is an offshoot of another disease the CDC found in 2008 called "Old Cars are the Only cars". Research is continuing. __________________ Jeff Teuton 4022 STK

09-20-2015, 11:33 AM	#29
D.Johns Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Indiana Posts: 437 Likes: 15 Liked 18 Times in 6 Posts	Re: Showroom Stock why not? Just call it bracket 1,2,3. However most young guys/girls aren't interested in bracket racing. New spectators to the sport really don't understand or like bracket racing. Everyone generally prefers heads up, beating the other guy in the lane. That's what you see on test and tunes and you see more spectators in the stands on those nights also. Problem is heads up is expensive and the more rules that are added the more expensive it gets. Even the crate motor cars are becoming humongously expensive. Why because speed cost money how fast do you want to go? Not uncommon to be spending thousands of dollars on bolts to lessen the polar moment of inertia. Want more people and new blood? Put on what the kids are into. Current fad is small tire and grudge racing. Have to always be changing with the times not trying to rekindle old flames. Those things worked at the time not because they were designed that way but due to a perfect storm. Perhaps there will be a lot of draw in your area for this and it will work. In my area it's battling of the area codes at a local track 2-3x a year on who's the quickest with an instant green start. __________________ 2014 Cobra Jet FS/XX #3345 STK/SS Like us on http://www.facebook.com/pages/Daniel...25886327426822 Last edited by D.Johns; 09-20-2015 at 11:37 AM.

09-20-2015, 01:11 PM	#30
rapid1055 Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 13 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Showroom Stock why not? Claude great idea...unfortunately you get the following: Great idea unfortunately... Dream on... Claude "your very right" but... Sorry... You can be like "snowmobile guys and gals" There were exceptions to these responses that very well stated a positive viewpoint thank you. I see plenty of showroom cars from all the major manufactures wherever I travel.