HOME FORUM RULES CONTACT
     
   
   

Go Back   CLASS RACER FORUM > Class Racer Forums > Stock and Super Stock
Register Photo Gallery FAQ Community Calendar

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 02-05-2015, 08:25 AM   #21
Billy Nees
VIP Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: On a hilltop in Pa.
Posts: 4,486
Likes: 3,587
Liked 7,683 Times in 1,731 Posts
Default Re: Good or Bad Idea

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ed Fernandez View Post
OK how's about this? It would take a real long track to do it. Both cars stage opposite each other,that's 2,640 feet apart, facing each other. They both race to the finish line. No having to turn your head 180 degrees (that will help the slow guys).Of course you'll have to move the timing boards and have an extra starter. Now that would make things interesting
What do you think Billy?.
Only if both cars are in the same lane!
__________________
Billy Nees 1188 STK, SS

I'm not spending 100K to win 2K
Billy Nees is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-05-2015, 08:28 AM   #22
Billy Nees
VIP Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: On a hilltop in Pa.
Posts: 4,486
Likes: 3,587
Liked 7,683 Times in 1,731 Posts
Default Re: Good or Bad Idea

Quote:
Originally Posted by HandOverFist View Post
I would'nt mind seeing both cars leave at the same time...that would take care of the first red scenario. Put a dial on each car and the best package wins...that would force all to dial honestly and eliminate excessive braking and eight second cars coming up from behind thirteen second cars at the stripe.
If we're going to start racing for a best package then why go to the Event? Just go to your local track, make a few runs and phone-in your results. No traveling expenses, I win!
__________________
Billy Nees 1188 STK, SS

I'm not spending 100K to win 2K
Billy Nees is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-05-2015, 09:11 AM   #23
Dwight Southerland
VIP Member
 
Dwight Southerland's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Arkansas - In the middle of everything.
Posts: 1,999
Likes: 64
Liked 772 Times in 192 Posts
Default Re: Good or Bad Idea

Quote:
Originally Posted by Billy Nees View Post
If we're going to start racing for a best package then why go to the Event? Just go to your local track, make a few runs and phone-in your results. No traveling expenses, I win!
That could start a trend for some sports! Imagine no more Masters event; golfers just go to their local course, shoot a few rounds, phone in the results. Think that would work? Or remote competition for track and field. Or the Kentucky Derby!!! Naah . . . .
__________________
Dwight Southerland is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-05-2015, 12:07 PM   #24
HandOverFist
VIP Member
 
HandOverFist's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Gulf Breeze, FL
Posts: 1,651
Likes: 8
Liked 33 Times in 16 Posts
Default Re: Good or Bad Idea

Quote:
Originally Posted by Billy Nees View Post
If we're going to start racing for a best package then why go to the Event? Just go to your local track, make a few runs and phone-in your results. No traveling expenses, I win!
I really can't see the negatives with my premise. You still have the normal heads up racing when paired with like cars. All the negatives are stacked against a lower class car when paired with a higher class entry. I know it would be a rather radical departure from what it has become over the years, but I would like some specifics on why it is totally unacceptable. This would even work at the local bracket racing level.
__________________
Rich Taylor
I/SA - 321
HandOverFist is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-05-2015, 04:10 PM   #25
cgall
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Posts: 36
Likes: 0
Liked 23 Times in 8 Posts
Default Re: Good or Bad Idea

No ambers, instant green. Start ET clock when light turns green. This way the playing field is level for all cars.
cgall is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-05-2015, 04:19 PM   #26
HandOverFist
VIP Member
 
HandOverFist's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Gulf Breeze, FL
Posts: 1,651
Likes: 8
Liked 33 Times in 16 Posts
Default Re: Good or Bad Idea

Quote:
Originally Posted by cgall View Post
No ambers, instant green. Start ET clock when light turns green. This way the playing field is level for all cars.
Not exactly...transbrake cars do have an edge on a Pro tree. I don't have a problem with the current tree as it is...would just like to see all cars leave at the same time.

Most of your spectators are at the tree and I guarantee they would not be more confused than they are already vs the current system. Another plus is you would not have very fast cars running up your backside down track...and no heavy braking with spinning vehicles past the stripe. Let's not forget no more loose harnesses so one can spin around in their seat to view what is coming up behind.
__________________
Rich Taylor
I/SA - 321

Last edited by HandOverFist; 02-05-2015 at 04:25 PM.
HandOverFist is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-05-2015, 04:23 PM   #27
cgall
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Posts: 36
Likes: 0
Liked 23 Times in 8 Posts
Default Re: Good or Bad Idea

If you start the ET clock when the light turns green you do not have a separate RT. The ET is the RT + ET. So there is no advantage to having a hard-leaving car.

Also, most new spectators believe the clock starts on green, not when the beams are broken.
cgall is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-05-2015, 04:44 PM   #28
HandOverFist
VIP Member
 
HandOverFist's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Gulf Breeze, FL
Posts: 1,651
Likes: 8
Liked 33 Times in 16 Posts
Default Re: Good or Bad Idea

Quote:
Originally Posted by cgall View Post
If you start the ET clock when the light turns green you do not have a separate RT. The ET is the RT + ET. So there is no advantage to having a hard-leaving car.

Also, most new spectators believe the clock starts on green, not when the beams are broken.
Regardless how it is instituted the transbrake is always going to be the quicker reacting to any given stimulus. The current set-up makes them "guess" just like we do footbraking...to a degree.

I used to could cut .000 lights in my dually tow truck leaving on the second amber. Would freak out many beside me seeing the truck move so soon lol.
__________________
Rich Taylor
I/SA - 321

Last edited by HandOverFist; 02-05-2015 at 04:48 PM.
HandOverFist is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-05-2015, 09:47 PM   #29
jmantle
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Black Creek, BC Canada
Posts: 331
Likes: 78
Liked 172 Times in 81 Posts
Default Re: Good or Bad Idea

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pistol Pete View Post
Wayyy back when handicap racing used to be a 5 yellows then the green, than switched to a 3 yellow and a green.

Would it be a good or bad idea to switch to: 1 Yellow than the Green.

Might cut down on Red Lights.....
I could live with 2 ambers, one won't work for me, either the car or I'm to slow.

Jim Mantle V/SA 6632
jmantle is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-11-2015, 12:49 AM   #30
treessavoy
VIP Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Dunnellon,FL
Posts: 1,103
Likes: 0
Liked 4 Times in 4 Posts
Default Re: Good or Bad Idea

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nitro Joe Jackson View Post
we use to run one yellow and green back in the old AHRA & IHRA days. Who all remembers those day?

I do, Joe, and when NASCAR went drag racing they had the same thing...they called it the "leavers Lose" system. First ran it at Atco then again when I moved to South Texas I ran it in the AHRA at old Alamo Drag Strip.

JimR
__________________
Jim Rountree
treessavoy is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 02:44 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Copyright Class Racer.com. All Rights Reserved. Designated trademarks and brands are the property of their respective owners.